The key issue for me here is 10k+ power difference, i have no problem with water main being best healer but when it gets to the point if you don't one shot a ninja it goes back to full hp from 15% life because of double healing tips it's dumb. It forces you to run very specific counter team that is only good vs this team while water immortal team works good vs most. This post was last edited by Dym at 2017-5-23 15:08

They did complain ... a lot ... and earth main got his shield halved with 2.0 update. Old Steel Body gave 100% res, so earth main had double shields if he used that. Same with Fire Mains old Mirror, it gave more damage then other talents and also gave you mirror so they nerf it in 2.0.

Currently this water team is on the op side, considering it only needs Sakura and rest of ninjas you can just fill with whatever, although i think it's more Sailor Sakura that's op then Water Main.

My attack is pretty good but on my server a lot of immortals run 65% mood kimi on hp slot in tactics, you just not killing him unless you get some crit luck and no early combo to charge his passive, if you read second part of my comment i know how to win them, 2 easiest ways for me are Shurado + Assassination blade with light armor or Playboy Sasuke root team. Problem is these 2 teams are good vs immortal but they aren't good general teams while immortal just become water main meta at this point and they use it vs everything.

Also we talking just about light main, but immortal is good vs all mains, especially ones who planned for it and went +4 elemental resists/damage resistance on their ninja tools, they have winning match ups vs like 90% of all teams.

Uhm there is one way, a pretty obvious one, when 10k power higher Mei/Mabui/Tenten team hits you for 1k dmg with Tenten turn 1, and i mean 1k total not per tick lol.

Uhm no root was buffed, the immune part stayed same but +20% atk changed to +100% res is which makes root very tanky now. You basically cannot do much to root team first 2 turns while it will do it's full combo to you.

But this is off topic this thread is about water healer team not root, you should make another thread if you think root is op, people who bring up something else is op here just kinda proving that they have nothing in defence of this water team comp.

Ok then by your logic, have you ever beaten immortal team higher power then you, because to me they are way worse then any lightning builds. I can win 10k higher lights in space time or sage with counter teams, no way am i doing that to immortal unless i get some amazing crit luck or something.

Also i don't know what builds people run on your server but higher power lightning teams are kinda easy to beat with wind mains and earth mains. The most meta wind build Sage Naruto/Kaze Gaara/Gakido hard counters almost all lightning builds and is borderline auto win same power or bit higher.

To me personally only problem with triple healer team or water in general is Sakura, she needs to many resources dedicated to counter her, any variant of immortal team without her is easy. I don't think water main should be nerfed in any way, all other water main meta teams are strong but manageable, only ones with Sakura tend to be on the op side.

Also i personally don't think light main is op either, even the most default water main team Mabui/Tenten/Mei wins almost all light main teams easy if you get barrier over them apart from Susano Sasuke and Chocolate Hidan ones and maybe Raikage ones(idk about this, he is much rarer then Sasuke in our server) but that is very obviously not light mains fault but those ninjas who cost like $300 and $800.