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On 2017-05-20 21:07:28Show All Posts
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-05-20 03:04:07
  • I dont understand what's so difficult about arena you're referring to...arena doesn measure your power, but only iniciative works in that regard, so i dont see the problem, i've beaten meta teams with teams that not everyone uses, wanna tip...start using refinements and build up that iniciative, maybe you'll win some arena fights, instead going in this forum saying arena is broken.
The problem is that yes, you can beat them, but you can't at all base your strategy to get a long lasting winning streak on that alone if you don't have something like 15k initiative at least.
One setup that maybe can win if you have a very good skill against one meta team, badly loses against the other 5-6 meta teams. In arena you need to win at least 3 times in a row to get +2 instead of +1 for every new victory. With what you are suggesting you can't do it all without knowing beforehand your rival setup.
You beat tenten gnw, mabui, mei, af meta team with a weird non meta team? wow, gratz! Little problem: the following match is against Bd, sage naruto, bee sst, gaara 5th kazekage, the following one after that is against Danzo, Mb root, Mifune, Kimimaro and your arranged team that worked once don't stand a chance against these two if worked well against the first. So you win the first match but you lose the other two. Summed up you got a -1.

Talking about the issue in general: the problem is that the actual system gives advantage only to cheaters and whales for new servers.

I'm ok with the advantage to whales but not at all with the advantage to cheaters.
Reading at what you write you play since a lot before 2.0 appeared. I play in server 302 one of the first servers that were in 2.0.
In my server only two people reached sage of six paths before the 60 days and THEY USED ALTS to do it. When i used to go in arena ranked at that time i only experienced queues longer than 1 hour and after i reached anbu somehow i just stopped caring about it since it was unplayable (no matchings at all after that point) and so did all the other people that tried to do it. If i knew it beforehand i would have created 5 alts too to reach it, now i can't do it anymore, but since i didn't cheat at that time now i get disvantaged in comparison with people that cheated.
This is what happens in every server after the first week it opens since 2.0 onwards. Whatever was your experience about it is not at all comparable with our one.
And what doesn't work at all is that Oasis encourages this behaviour because doesn't do anything to change it.
This post was last edited by 988***@uf16 at 2017-5-20 21:36
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On 2017-05-23 03:08:36Show All Posts
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-05-21 00:12:52
  • im curious to know how do you "cheat" in arena post 2.0? when it's crossed arena.
when a new server opens for the first two months is out of the cross server circuit. at the 61st day it gets added to the circuit. So you can simply create 4-5 alts and join arena when none else do it during those 60 days.
You just reach the highest tier possible with your main account, then you let the alts fight among themselves until one of them reaches one tier lower than yours, at that point you rank up. And you redo it, by adding new alts, until you reach the points for sage of six paths.
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On 2017-05-23 22:57:57Show All Posts
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-05-23 07:08:37
  • then u shouldnt even be allowed to do arena, if people do that, and Oasis knows it, u can actually prevent arena for 60 days in the code for the new servers, call it unfair, but is it fair that people cheat their way up to sage of six paths, through alt account while others doing legit way, telling you, this game has these flaws, i agree could make a difference in someone who wants to be competitive.
When my server went in the cross server circuit was around the first week of march. At that point the first season of arena was still to be over so none here knew that our negative points would have been kept even if we didn't reach sage of six path rank. We thought, and was more than normal to think so, that our rank would be kept but our positive/negative points would have been reset at the beginning of every new season since was common sense that this would have happened.
None ever from the managament, before the 2nd arena season began, had stated that only sage of six paths people would have had their points (and beware i'm talking about points, not rank) resetted at the end of a season.
If they stated it before and if they told us that even reaching superkage after it went cross server would have been impossible for the following 6 months at least, maybe a lot more of us would have planned a lot differently in advance.

Anyways whatever you think about it the point of this whole mess is that all the people here thinks the same way as me about arena and the reason why we don't join ranked arena anymore is because we know we have only to lose by doing it.
If we knew our points would get reset every season (i would be ok even with rank reset) or if we knew that losing against somebody that just once reached sage of six paths doesn't make us lose any points then we would join back again (since basically we are meeting only them right now when we join).
Right now we don't do it because we have no chances to rank up after kage and there's no personal skill or accessible lineup that could let us do it (and just to state is bluntly naruto 6 tails, bee sst, earth main, kk gaara isn't an accessible lineup).

This post was last edited by 988***@uf16 at 2017-5-23 23:10
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On 2017-05-29 01:05:53Show All Posts
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Up, i think this thread needs to stay in top positions
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