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1＃ Go ToNot trying to be a * or sound disrespectful to players who use these double healer and triple healer teams, but seriously... when do they die out? I mean this fad is easily the least cool out of all the teams that got popular over time. It is so boring watching Space Time and seeing all these strong people just * to easy ass 3 heal teams and fight for 10 rounds and see which one is lucky enough to catch less debuffs in Round 10.
Something should be done to get these stuipd teams to go away, if you look through the forums and across YouTube you will hardly come across any players who say "Oh yeah, that 2 ( or 3) healer team is amazing! I get so excited watching them fight! It's a good addition to the game!!"
I'm sure you will find a lot of players who use these teams, but only because its either use a healer team or lose right now. And before anyone decides to talk about the Lighting or Fire teams that can stack debuffs...give me a break. Not many players have the ninja to even pull those teams off, and let alone the fact that a 3 heal team can often times defeat someone with 20k more power.
I would really like to get a response on this. When I watch CN vids, even from the Jinchuriki era, nowadays I'm just amazed I don't see them all using 2 or 3 healer teams. I mean sure Han and Roshi are nice, but the only thing I can foresee coming from that is players using Han with Kyuubi Naruto with 2 healers...that way not even buff teams stand a chance.
Look, everybody hates these water main teams and yet sooo many people use them. I think that is maybe pointing to the fact that perhaps Healing is too OP right now. I mean at most healing should be a support character, but you * 3 of them into a team and you will find yourself being unable to die. (I'm guessing because it seems healing tips stack?)
EDIT: I felt the need to really stress that I don't care about any special snowflakes who don't think its a problem. I mean if you have the power and ninja to defeat these teams good for you. But 99% of us are still frustrated by them. And some of the strongest players across my servers use these heal teams...and I know that they really don't want to..they just feel the need to.
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I'd take a GNW TenTen team over this * Water main, sailor Sakura, Hokage Tsundade and Kyuubi cloak Naruto teams.
It is like you said, its insanely boring to watch and its not even a real match. It just comes down to luck, and whoever has the slowest initiative on their move 4 so their Hokage Tsunade or sailor sakura clense last. I'm seriously considering quitting the game just because I don't see this going anywhere.
On the flip side, I'm sure previous versions of this game had this problem too. I mean, sooner or later people seem to move on to other teams...so I really hope that happens soon for us. This water main 2 or 3 healer meta crap can die and go to hell. -
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Midnight Blade is OP when they have more power than you. But, even with a 10-20k Power advantage I see Midnight Blades losing to these dull ass Healer teams. They are just boring.
Anyway this isn't a matter of "just spend moar, lolz" Like I said top players are using these teams just to keep up with the random scrubs who were running it. And you c*ways find them because they are the ones defending these *ty teams. -
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- Karissaa On 2017-05-07 19:02:24
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I Dont Understand. water didnt get buffed. lighting didnt get buffed
So are u Saying All those threads about Midnight Blade are wrong???? That all during that time Water was the strongest.
I Think not. From Looking up the word OVER POWER. Midnight Blade is all u will see, and how they need to Nerf it.
So Stop Trolling cause this whole game knows Midnight Blade is the STRONGEST, Cause look at all those threads, all those people cant be wrong could they??
You are just a water noob who is finally pretty strong and is unwilling to admit that you are only strong because currently the water healing teams are OP. When you can fight and defeat a team that someone spent over 8k for (I'm talking about Susanoo Sasuke and Susanoo Itachi teams) with 2 or 3 healers..then something needs to change.
Healers are meant to be a support role, yet as someone explained before they can currently CC AND do pretty good damage. If you need further evidence of how broken they are, then just look at time space at all the people who had Susanoo teams and used healing teams anyway. -
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- kingkongdingdon On 2017-05-08 04:13:10
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LOL if people wanna run triple healer teams you cant stop them what you are saying is stop playing the game the way the people who run those teams want to play the game. caz some people are * hurt about it XD just gonna put it out their people play the game the way they want it no one can just say dont use that team or that team caz im too weak to fight it if you dont wanna fight the team quit thats what those teams are meant to do and for the record one me
ta dont stay that long anyway in a while people will move on to another me ta so are you gonna tell ppl to no use them too when they start using another me ta that you cant handle? Maybe the ppl who run the Triple heals enjoy running the teams no one care about some couple of yourubers say or think they are just some random ppl who make videos as their job so are you saying that just caz the youtubers dont say that triple heal or double heal is good that ppl should't run those teams.
This is a reply to you another guy who said "They aren't boring." Just look at the comments flying around during a Triple healing space time match. They are hardly good.
When people refer to teams as Toxic and cancer..I mean *, that is a sign that you can't ignore. Losing to a lightnig blade team who spent all that money to get Susanoo Itachi/Sasuke is one thing, but losing to some rando 60-70k with 2 or 3 healers is just *y. Don't get me wrong, I understand the mindset behind it. I just can't wait for the teams to die is all. Because at the end of the day, you can say they require strategy as much as you want, but anyone with a keen eye can tell that between two Cancer teams, it comes down to luck as to who wins.
It comes down to round 10 and who happens to gets lucky enough to have the least amount of debuffs based on healing standards and maybe if their HOkage tsunade moves last on move 4. TRAAAAASH. -
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Clearly this topic has some mixed reviews. But I'm still on the side of saying water needs to be nerfed. I mean when your only defense for water main healing teams is "Midnight Blade is the REAL OP thing, and we made these teams to beat that." it sort of an ironic point.
On one hand you are saying how OP lightning mains are, but on the other hand you are admitting that you can beat this so called OP team. So what does that say about your healing teams? This post was last edited by kpo***@riordanhs.org at 2017-5-8 06:19 -
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- Jibby On 2017-05-08 09:07:46
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This is a thread with the purpose to :-
1) Easily get a counter team from any INTELLIGENT/EXPERIENCED player against an Immortal Team
2) Boring or not, there are multiple strategies required in game depending on the situation/events you are in either: a) Sage Battlefield b) Space Time (Applaud Kira) c) GNW d) Rich Field/Ninetails e) Plunder
3) It wasn't a boring match, look at the fight closely check the timing, sequence and positioning of Kira which makes him won the match, Failure of AP to anticipate his opponent movement costs him it was FAIR (83k vs 100k) and Square.
4) Now whoever said go BET to the highest POWER in space-time has to shut up and this proof the game is actually has an element of strategy.
5) You play your best cards, Kira played his best bet which is defensive given of the position he is in and WON and you cry how it is boring? Shame on you.
1) Kira isn't even who I was talking about...I'm talking about the other scrub ass healers. And don't tell me it isn't boring to watch, SURE there might be placement strategy but that is 100% luck because you don't know exactly where your opponent will place his people unless you fight the team multiple times and they don't move.
All this crap is b/s. I am an experienced player and all my friends are. It's not like I am incapable of thinking.. The heal teams are sometimes weak to ignite, but those 3 healers? It's complete b/s.
Sure on one hand its cool to say things like "grats on beating that guy 10k stronger than you" but once everyone starts doing it, its a problem. Cuz then every noob starts doing it and suddenly every fight lasts 10 rounds.
And shouldn't the definition of over powered be that you are capable of beating someone 10-20k more power than you? It has less to do with strategy than it does with broken Life attributes and healing ratios. And you provided all the proof yourself. -
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- S177Athrun On 2017-05-08 13:09:47
- It's not the car you drive. It's the driver who's driving the car ;P
This driver ranked 4th in Space time.. What did you make? ;P
EDIT: Also that is a dumb point because a half ass driver could destroy the best driver in the world if he was in a clunker. Tho in this case its more like the normal drivers are in decent cars without any sort of after market parts and the healers would be using annoying stuff that isn't fun to watch at all, but somehow win? Yeah, thanks for bringing cars to a Naruto fight.
EDIT 2: Also, back to the point about the cars. In this case the healer teams are driven by players who can't win in other ways, so they use this cheap crap. The thing is, once they force the people they are trying to beat to resort to healer teams too, they STILL lose. So, I guess according to your *ogy, healer teams have some poor driving skills.
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I see my mistake these last few pages... I should reiterate that I'm NOT losing to these crappy teams. Infact there is only 1 healing team I fought recently that I lost to and that person had 100k+ power. So this isn't a lack of skill or power talking here.
Like I said, in a completely honest way, I just find these teams to be boring as hell. And I know that a majority of players agree with me. Infact, from what I have seen, its mostly people who RELY on these healing teams as a crutch that don't want to agree. -
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- Jibby On 2017-05-08 13:59:55
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If you are not losing,
it isn't even an issue to you, why the complaints?
you complain over how other players uses available ninja in game?
they never complain you using your OP team, why complain about them?
when you started to mention how boring other people teams are compared to my 4th rank in space time team, we should all stop reading your post.
So the other guy said I wasn't good enough to have an opinion on healing teams and you are saying that I am too good to have an opinion.
I really wish you guys would make up your minds. Just because I can beat the teams doesn't mean I have to like them. They aren't fun to fight at all and don't require any skill to use. Now, you can argue that there are certain elements to it that require skill or strategy but its more like luck on who takes less debuffs. I say luck because you can't control where your healing standards go.
The way you are being such a try hard in defending these teams, makes me suspect either you aren't very strong yourself and rely on a team like this to do decent...or you just like to argue.
The thing is, my little friend, I have used this team too. And speaking as a player who has used it (successfully I might add) I don't like it very much at all.
So, back to the main part of this whole thread, does anyone have an exact date in mind on when these teams will die? Because I don't care to hear these people say I'm complaining when it's exactly what -they- are doing in trying to defend such a terrible line up. -
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- S177Athrun On 2017-05-08 14:52:33
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seems like the OP is just another ctrl+c, ctrl+v, credit card jutsu swipe swipe player
i don't blame him for being so sore when his $10000 ninja gets *ed by a few healers + a GREAT player behind the team
once again OP as a I said before, it's the driver whose driving the car, and not the car ;P
Both of you guys are making a lot of assumptions. I dont have any team like that. Yall just like to assume the worst huh? Maybe it helps validate yourselves?
I mean aside from teaming up to insult me I haven't seen many words of worth come from you. I can beat the heal teams so there is no salt.
In fact, I would prefer both of you quit posting here because now you are just trying to flame me for thinking that 3 Heal teams are *y. (Which is the majority opinion btw.) Every time you tried to make a point and I proved you wrong you just tried to say something else to discredit my opinion. And now suddenly I'm a rich guy? I will admit I've spent on this game, I mean you don't make it to top 4 in space time (Especially in a competitive server group) without spending... but I digress, the amount that I have spent is no where compared to what most have..especially for my peers in ranking.
So, as I said before my opinion on these teams isn't based on them beating me, OR me being too rich. It's ob jective and its ba sed on the fact that its become so popular. I've observed that even those so called "OP Lightning Mains" with the "$10,000 teams" switch to these healing teams now.
Yes, it is a counter to blitz teams...but lets please get back to my main point of this thread. Blitz teams have only so long to live before Han comes out. But even once blitz teams go away I'm afraid these lame healing teams will * around. I mean, they are so op they can even beat the OP Lightning Blitz. And Han won't effect that too much.
Now, yes, maybe future ninja will help cause enough debuffs to shut them down but I don't know for sure...which is why I started this thread. So if you guys only intend to attempt to mock me please stop posting here. This is more of a research thread. Besides that, I've already argued against your points and you just keep coming up with more unfounded B/s. This post was last edited by kpo***@riordanhs.org at 2017-5-8 17:17 -
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That isn't the only way to fight. And once again I feel like you guys are missing the main point of this thread.
But I will entertain this train of thought. In your way of thinking lets say the other person spent thousands more than you. In p2w game they shoudl have an advantage right? I mean they would beat you down in a regular fight if you had the same team. I would even say it is Over powered.
But then you take a basic 2 or 3 healer team and defeat that guy while having 15k less power than him... On one hand its victory for you, but on the other hand its clearly one hell of an OP team you have. And then that OP lightning main guy suddenly switches to your healing team too..except wait, he is a casher and has 4 tails Naruto.. You lose either way.
Now back to the point of my thread: Eventually the "OP Lightning" meta will die out. But what will come along to make the heal me ta die? You say it was made to counter lightning me ta..which is ironic for one because 'immortal' teams have existed for quite some time... but once the lighting me ta goes away, do you honestly think these healing teams will? I for one hope so. I don't enjoy watching 3 healer teams go back and forth for 10 rounds. There are no clutch moments... just make it to round 10 and see who catches the most debuffs in the final round.
I am asking because when I look at CN vids I don't see the garbage that we have, but I am concerned that this will be a final meta. Say what you want about the practicality of it...just think about how lame 10 round fights would be for the rest of the time you play naruto online. This post was last edited by kpo***@riordanhs.org at 2017-5-8 17:54 -
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- S177Athrun On 2017-05-09 07:13:52
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from my understanding your "personal" enjoyment is seeing numbers and flashy animations go off right?
well my personal enjoyment is seeing smaller spenders counter mr.wallet
i hope everyone that watched the first seasons space-time learned a thing or two and it's very convincing now that mr.wallet isn't guarenteed winning everything
go through every post on your thread. it's only your opinion so stop speaking on the behalf of the community because we DISAGREE
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- Thane Krios On 2017-05-08 20:08:04
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The immortals teams that can beat susanoo and others highly p2w teams are teams with ninja like tsunade hokage or six tails naruto.
Sure they are maybe a little easier to get than the susanoo brothers but they are still p2w ninjas very hard to get so it's not like everyone can suddenly beat the * of opponents way stronger. Lightning blitz and water blitz are way more easy to build cancer teams in my opinion. No wonder why they are everywhere.
Space time is not a good representation of what teams are the most used by the community since it is just the whales fighting each other.
As for your statement that everyone hate fights that last 10 rounds well that is just your opinion. It's like in every other MMO there are different style of gameplay and everyone doesn't like the same thing. DPS, Tank, Healer, Crowd Control, AeO, etc.
For example i really don't like the gameplay of lightning blitz. I think it's boring and require no skills at all so i never jumped on the lightning blitz bandwagon.
In my opinion those 10 rounds match were way more interesting than a match over round 1 or round 2 wich is just one sided slaughter while in 10 rounds some interesting plays can be made and a player can turn the situation around, making a comeback, etc but that is just my opinion.
Immortal teams will die at some point. No one use them in china as far as i know so i guess it will not be enough to have 3 heals against the end game meta now i can't say for sure when it will end.
As fore fights that last 10 rounds all the chinese space time fights that i have seen where a lot worse than here in that regard.
Everyone had the same team with earth main, roshi, naruto kurama, hashirama sennin/killer bee and the fights lasted 10 rounds with maybe one ninja dead at the end max so you tell me if it is better.
You are the first person to post in opposition of me that has made any sense. But let me ask you this: Knowing what you do about the CN meta right now, aren't you at least a little bit afraid what the healing me ta could do if its left unchecked? I mean you say its earth mains going on and on, but I could see the heals contributing to that right now.
Whether you agree with me about it or not, it apparently did die in the CN for some reason. I'm just trying to figure out why, and when it will happen...but no one seems to know exactly, and all I have accomplished in this thread is in making the desperate healers come on and tell me how they want to nerf Lightning mains (Which I don't use btw) and somehow the Water mains teams that can beat those lightning mains don't need to be nerfed? That doesn't make sense.
Sure you can beat those "rich" guys (Which technically makes the heal team more OP than their supposedly OP team), but once they start doing it too they will crush you. So in the end its pointless.
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- S177Athrun On 2017-05-09 08:10:10
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"where as the majority" gimme names. don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk
unlike you no one else is spamming gen forums with rants on ninjas/team formations
what does this have to do with me and the community? am I making a statement or judgement on particular lineup/team formation?
if you can read english, you can clearly see that people are trying to get it through your thick * head that you're just making a fool out of yourself
please don't ridicule yourself and talk on behalf of the community. there's NO majority that's agreeing with you on your blind sided views
This whole thread you keep attacking me for thinking differently than you instead of talking about the issue. So if anyone among us sounds * I'm going to say its you.
You can't cry that one team is OP while trying to defend one that beats it with 20k less power.
My MAIN problem with healing teams is they take so long to beat in SWB, even if you do win it's so much time wasted. And anyone who is excited to watch two teams go back and forth for 10 rounds at full hp...we just don't agree. But, its all good. If they keep existing I can keep beating them its no skin off my teeth.
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