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On 2017-05-06 01:38:45Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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As many of you know it is past May 1st which means companies in China will start giving drop rates for things that have them. I stumbled upon the drop rates for Overwatch and thought how lenient the drop rates were able to be labeled. For anyone who doesn't play Overwatch there is a Loot Box system where you get 1 and it rolls the dice on a skin/voice/icon/etc. for you to get. From what I have seen it may only have to state it on the Chinese website and hasn't been officially stated on the US website. The thing I found interesting of all of it is that they are REQURIED to keep track of actual Random Draws and see how it compared to the stated drop rates. This track record is supposed to be public so people can see it. I am going to assume that the drop rates are the same for here and China but that is not something I can confirm.
For Blizzard, they just had to state the different tiers of rare you can get and their average on when you get them. For example, Epic rare are on average every 5.5 Loot Boxes. As far as I can see they are not required to give a drop rate on every single item in the Loot Box. So how does this effect Naruto Online. We as a community may not be able to see the actual ninja and percent’s you can get them but instead they can say every rare happens on average at 10 pulls. I feel this law isn't going to change what we already know sadly. Some people don't know China has implement a way to see what ninja are common/rare/super rare/ultra-rare. I sense this is going to be them stating you can get these on average every pull number and not a you can get GNW Sakura 2% of the time.
I know some people and this includes me wanted to see the actual drop rate such as you get 10% chance to get said ninja. It seems it can be very general and not very intrusive. If anyone get any more information or can shed some light please feel free to let us know. This post was last edited by AssumedParasite at 2017-5-6 01:42
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On 2017-05-06 02:40:10Show this Author Only
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I assume that you are not required to display the % for a specific item if the drop rate of all item of the same rarity is the same. Since it would be a pain in the *beep* in order to maintain the list if that is the case since drops change every now and then and you can give a decent estimate if you know roughly how many item of each rarity are available if you really wanted. But if items of the same rarity have DIFFERENT drop rate, then perhaps they would have to reveal it.
Just my guess anyway, I'm too lazy to dig up the law and read it...
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On 2017-05-06 03:26:57Show this Author Only
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2.6 ...Online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services that can be drawn/forge on the official website or a dedicated draw probability webpage of the game. The information on draw probability shall be true and effective.

2.7 Online game publishers shall publicly announce the random draw results by customers on notable places of official website or in game, and keep record for government inquiry. The record must be kept for more than 90 days. When publishing the random draw results, some measures should be taken place to protect user privacy.
This is the translation I found, credit to chillybright from the Neogaf forums.
This post was last edited by Koncept at 2017-5-6 03:29
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On 2017-05-06 03:37:43Show this Author Only
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I was expecting it to be this thursday since its first update after the law been passed so question is why hasnt it been implemented even partly? Surely Oasis has nothing to hide :P
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On 2017-05-06 06:44:01Show this Author Only
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They are just gonna keep milking players as long as they can.
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On 2017-05-06 06:51:42Show this Author Only
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i think we would all love to see this
sadly it won't happen for many of us as this law only applies to game that are published inside of china, any game outside of china doesn't have to follow this if they don't want to sadly.

But lets ask for it anyway as it would make the game great again!
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On 2017-05-06 07:05:16Show this Author Only
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  • MrTakauri On 2017-05-06 06:51:42
  • i think we would all love to see this
    sadly it won't happen for many of us as this law only applies to game that are published inside of china, any game outside of china doesn't have to follow this if they don't want to sadly.

    But lets ask for it anyway as it would make the game great again!
Actually did do have to follow, since they claimed they follow china laws...otherwise, if they operate outside of China country, then what happen back then, they gonna get lawsuits on them.
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On 2017-05-06 07:07:23Show this Author Only
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lawsuits for what?
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On 2017-05-06 09:34:46Show this Author Only
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I made a thread about this on the German forum already, so I translated it quickly. I calculated the chances up to 100% so it's easier to see, how many scrolls you have to spend on average in total. I just don't understand the chances themselves. I guess for example 1,5% is the chance to draw Rasa with 1 seal? No one has ever drawn a super rare ninja with 1 seal though.
Chinese published rates:

Seal Treasure
Rare (2%, 50 Seals): Oro/Tsunade/Jiraiya (Kampf Sannin), Deidara, Sasori, Kisame, Hidan, Chiyo Chikamatsu, Konan, Tobi
Super Rare (0.1%, 1000 Seals): Sasori 100, Hashirama
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Naruto Chakra 9 Tails


Tendo Treasure
Rare (2%, 50 Seals): Chiyo Chikamatsu, Konan, Oro Nukenin, Sage Jiraiya, Pain Chikushodo/Ningendo/Jikogudo/Gakido
Super Rare (0.1%, 1000 Seals): Tendo, Tobirama, Tsunade Hokage
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Naruto Sage


Kage Treasure
Rare (2%, 50 Seals): Onoki, Mei, Gaara Kage, Danzo, Darui, Mifune, Bee 7 Swords, Chojuro
Super Rare (0.1%, 1000 Seals): Ay, Susano Sasuke
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Jinchuriki 1
Rare (1.54%, 64 Seals): Yugito, Yagura
Super Rare (0.5%, 200 Seals): Roshi
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Jinchuriki 2
Rare (1.54%, 64 Seals): Utakata, Fu
Super Rare (0.5%, 200 Seals): Han
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Reanimated 1
Rare (3%, 33 Seals): Mu, Kabuto Snake
Super Rare (1.5%, 66 Seals): Gengetsu
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Reanimated 2
Rare (3%, 33 Seals): Kin/Ginkaku
Super Rare (1.5%, 66 Seals): Rasa
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Lightning Realm Treasure
Rare (3%, 33 Seals): Omoi, Samui
Super Rare (0.54%, 185 Seals): 3. Raikage
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Susano Itachi


Kurama Treasure
Rare (1.54%, 64 Seals): Mangetsu, Kushimaru, Ameyuri, Jinin, Zabuza Edo, Jinpachi, Sasori Edo, Zetsu (Mangetsu to Jinpachi are the 7 swordsmen)
Super Rare (0.1%, 1000 Seals): Kurama Naruto, Madara
Fragments (0.033%, 3030 Seals): Hashirama Edo (Sage?)


Summon Treasure
Golden Summons (1.67%, 59 Scrolls)
Kirin, King of Hell (0.05%, 2000 Scrolls)
This post was last edited by FrancoBlanco at 2017-5-6 09:42
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On 2017-05-06 10:48:23Show this Author Only
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Thank you.
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On 2017-05-06 10:52:14Show this Author Only
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  • AssumedParasite On 2017-05-06 10:48:23
  • Thank you.
Many people are quitting, regardless of the changes, people are not satisfied at how the game is going. For a browser game it can do a lot better. Make it better than mobile games.
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On 2017-05-06 11:28:55Show this Author Only
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I want the stats on the recharge wheels and stuff like that in events. we all know how many seals you need for rares and super rares already
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On 2017-05-06 20:11:38Show this Author Only
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  • Sveaevo On 2017-05-06 11:28:55
  • I want the stats on the recharge wheels and stuff like that in events. we all know how many seals you need for rares and super rares already
we didn't know at all the reanimated rolls, nor the chance to get a naruto ninetails chakra fragment in seal treasure....
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On 2017-05-06 20:48:54Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2017-05-06 20:11:38
  • we didn't know at all the reanimated rolls, nor the chance to get a naruto ninetails chakra fragment in seal treasure....
go look at any german edo opening video and then boom, you know how many seals you need. prolly even English pulls out now, so thats just false. The nine tail frag out of sealed tho ? irrelevant honestly
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On 2017-05-06 21:10:20Show this Author Only
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Interesting... Thx for the info :loveliness:
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