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On 2017-05-03 06:12:42Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I've run into a brick wall in Ranked matches against players of equal or lesser Battle Power.
Wondering if you guys could take a look at what I'm running and what I have to work with and
hopefuly help me out with some reccomendations.
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On 2017-05-03 06:44:42Show this Author Only
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In my opinion you shouldn't put GNW Kankuro or Kakashi in the front, they're too squishy for that.
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On 2017-05-03 20:39:03Show this Author Only
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True. They are only in front so Kankuro's puppet and Kakashi clone force Naruto clones to the back to protect them for a better chance at a ResanShuriken. I could move them back one so the puppet and clone go in the front.
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On 2017-05-03 21:23:53Show this Author Only
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Here's a few tips, make each team to have a ninja that can
1 - heal, debuff (poison/tag/ignite) or summon clone
2 - can revive or can revive by them self
3 - barrier (prompt/non prompt)
4 - aoe attack or multiple hit with normal attack
5 - special ability to team or mystery that can be cast to other team (Guy-hp leech, Kurenai-shield)

Here one example
team 1 ( manual barrier, heals, poison+ignite, aoe, summon clone)

x - x - x
Kankuro GNW - x - Gaara
Kabuto - Tsunade - x

Hope it helps...
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On 2017-05-04 06:58:17Show this Author Only
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  • True. They are only in front so Kankuro's puppet and Kakashi clone force Naruto clones to the back to protect them for a better chance at a ResanShuriken. I could move them back one so the puppet and clone go in the front.
Well imo you need to figure out who to prioritize. I personally would prioritize GNW Kankuro as his mystery provides burn and poison to the entire team. If you want to do that then I wouldn't put the puppet up front as it's too squishy to handle that.

From what I've heard you should have a DPS team in ranked, an "annoyance/interrupt" team, and a "tank" team. But I myself haven't fully mastered ranked yet and I've been able to do fine with two DPS teams and a tank/support team.
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On 2017-05-04 09:53:49Show this Author Only
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A reviver is always helpful in RB so I think Chiyo should be of help here.
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On 2017-05-04 10:12:36Show this Author Only
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These are the main issues I see:

1) Lack of position 1 initiators
If kankuros puppet dies to some AoE, you're pretty much left with letting the entire enemy team cast first on you before you get a chance to respond, and since AI targets lowest health ninjas collectively, odds are you might get broken chases and dead ninjas by the time you release your mystery skill

2) Playing around AI.
You need to know how AI works particularly in terms of skill prioritization.
Lets take 2 of your teams for example.
a) If sasuke gets barrier off, AI will 100% try to cast Kirin in round 2. That means you're using a p3 initiator instead of your wind main. Also karin skill will be prioritized over hinata spin in terms of the usage of that first 20 chakra in round 1.
b) Having Guy in your team is "generally" bad. Because his skill is an interrupt skill, the AI will not skill him at the start of the round, instead his mystery will be used reactively against an opponent that skills. Your guy however is in p3, he's not going to cancel anyones skill, all he does is hit the enemy for some damage. Also since none of your ninjas chase repulse, only pingponging hf-kd, there is no chain here at all in response to your only single target chase trigger for team 3.
To use guy well, you need a 20 chakra person (eg: kakashi) in a high priority position so he skills at start of round. Guy will then be able to use his reactive kick. If you have a 40 chakra initiator, the AI will not let that ninja skill until Guy has responded.

3) Broken chases.
Ideally especially for your non main teams, you want ninjas that trigger in a full circle (eg any status change caused by a ninja triggers the full chase cycle). Team one, naruto rasengan triggers nothing, Team 3, guy kick does nothing.

The easiest way to rank up early on is to have good p1 initiators triggering a full cycle of chase, preferably with acu involved (hinata, neji GNW).
This post was last edited by Slacker~ at 2017-5-4 10:13
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On 2017-05-04 10:34:54Show this Author Only
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Looking at your ninjas, since you're still in the early stages in the game, identify ninjas you want to build a team around.
Highest quality ninjas you have are Kank GNW, Kimimaru and possibly kakuzu

Some teams you can play around with
Kank, Kimi, Tsunade, Hinata
Tank team, put facing the opponents highest physical damage, adjust positions if needed. This team will have full cycle chase with acu, plus Kank 100% triggers LF, good to abuse opponent lineups that you already know positioning. Hide puppet behind kimi or hinata, its going to be a p2 trigger for R2, but Kimi will be able to skill first in r3.

Team 7
Always works, full cycle chase between the trio of ssk/naruto/sakura when naruto procs his lf. Add in a 4th which you like that works, but recall AIs bias towards ssk, so you might need a kd chaser.

Kakuzu, Hidan, Kakashi Kabuto
Lose 1 hf-lf chase with p1 kakashi trigger, but decent ninja quality. Can swap main with a ninja to make it a full cycle.

Naruto Hinata Kank main
Pretty classic combo with a chase initiator and double 100% proccers to lf.
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On 2017-05-04 10:45:18Show this Author Only
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First things first. Regardless of what ninjas you end up using you should atleast level them to your current maximum level.
If you can both cultivate and awaken all of your ninjas in ranked battle too, it would be great.

What do you want in ranked battle teams ?
1. 1-2 interrupts
2. Massive Area damage
3. Debuffs on enemy team
4. Some sustain
5. Decent chases

Here is one set up you could try
One team could have #1 Neji #2 Guy #3 Kakashi #4 Kabuto with either kakashi or guy solo laning behind kakashi's clone
Mains team could have #1 Hinata #2 BD #3/4 Kurenai #4/3 Tobi with Tobi solo laning
Last team could be #1 Kimimaro #2/3 Asuma #4/3 Karin #2-4 Gaara with Gaara positioned as offlane tank and casting order depending on whats most beneficial vs your current opponent, (most likely third)

Situational ninjas to consider.
Kakuzu and Tenten would be great for massive Area damage.
Hidan would win you matches if you have close fights with opponents. Him resurrecting every 2 rounds to take 1-2 ninjas with him to early grave really hurts, but he doesn't really work if you are challenger.
GNW Kankuro and Chiyo can be used to get past enemy tanks with certain chase. Just remember to place them on the lane you want to start chase on.

If it looks like your team isn't working as intended watch the fight carefully and check what mysteries have priority over ones you want to have triggered first and make team accordingly.
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On 2017-05-04 12:12:28Show this Author Only
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I want to say thank you to all the very helpful advise you all have provided me with. With the great tips on positioning and proper chasing I was able to break out of my brick wall (Rank 17) and move up to my new brick wall (9th) lol, but that is do to the gag in BP.

Thanks again.
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On 2017-05-04 15:42:18Show this Author Only
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mmhmmm ;P;P;P
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