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On 2017-04-25 00:26:53Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So I was using a poison tai team with chikushudo and it was pretty good untill I noticed that the healers were removing multiple layers of poison debuffs with just one standard heal and it wasnt tsunade either karin and kabuto were removing my multiple 4x pioson debuffs with just 1 heal standard (I know they can only remove 1 debuff per heal), So is that intended or what is going on here?.

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On 2017-04-25 00:48:41Show this Author Only
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read each skill again, then u will have your answer, since u must of rushed and didnt read
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On 2017-04-25 00:52:04Show this Author Only
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1 layer = 1 type of debuff so poison x100 is just poison
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On 2017-04-25 00:58:34Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-04-25 00:52:04
  • 1 layer = 1 type of debuff so poison x100 is just poison
if that's the case then poison is useless or isn't as effective as ignition, I thought healers could only remove 1 layer per heal but I guess I was wrong.
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On 2017-04-25 01:01:34Show this Author Only
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I thought healers could only remove only 1 layer of the poison because why would there be a stack mechanic in the game for poison, this only makes ninjas like hanzo and gakido *tier then they already are but hanzo can still be decent against paralysis teams.
This post was last edited by sop***@gmail.com at 2017-4-25 01:02
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On 2017-04-25 01:06:00Show this Author Only
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Poison can have up to 4 layers. Healers that only remove 1 layer at a time cannot remove 4 layers of poison at once.

Are you certain you stacked 4 layers in the first place? Chikushodo's mystery does not apply poison at all for example, as it is pure nin.
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On 2017-04-25 06:57:21Show this Author Only
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Some heals and effects remove all debuffs; IE Sakura/Water main's mystery heal; Fire/Wind main team buff.

Most heal effects remove 1 layer of debuff and I'm unsure if it can completely remove stacked poison.
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On 2017-04-25 07:18:05Show this Author Only
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Pretty sure any stack of poison count as one debuff, thou I'm not 100%, I'm fairly sure.
However, it is the one of the lowest priority debuff, which means healer will remove ANY other debuff over poison.
So it's very easy to protect your poison by hiding it behind a layer of something else, the most common of which is mass ignition from mei.

I know hard cc (immobile/chaos) have highest order, then I think it's acu, then paralysis or blind, then it's ignition. Not entirely sure about tag, that might be the only thing lower than poison, or might be higher than poison.
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On 2017-04-25 10:00:40Show this Author Only
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kabutos heal should target debuffed ninjas first xD
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On 2017-04-25 13:59:58Show this Author Only
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Mabui removes everything with her standard healing though.
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On 2017-04-25 20:32:30Show this Author Only
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poison can land up to 4 times the damage of ignition if not removed and, as other people said, if you stack other debuffs to an enemy, poison will be the last one to be removed. Anyways yes, gakido passive, for example, remove 1 stack of debuff per time and i'm sure it removes 4 stacks of poison in a row.
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On 2017-04-25 21:22:32Show this Author Only
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i'm pretty sure it only removes 1 layer of debuff. i've seen some healers like kabuto, sakura remove debuff but poison was still there. fyi, the ninja only had poison debuff, so it means there were multiple layers of poison.

Btw, Mabui can remove ALL debuff for one ninja with least life. It's a mistake in her description.

ps : wait, i could be mistaken abt my first statement.....hmmm....i'll do some observation and come back to you guys.
This post was last edited by CrownedKlown at 2017-4-25 21:24
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On 2017-04-25 22:18:04Show this Author Only
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Poison layers are considered 1 type of debuff.
Most healers can remove 1 debuff. Since 4 layers of poison is still considered a "Poison Debuff" it counts as 1 debuff.

And yes, Gakido can remove all 4 layers of Poison because as I said, 4 layers are still considered to be 1 debuff.

If we had to remove each layer individually, then Poison Tai would be way too overpowered. I mean, currently, at 4 layers it can tick for 7999 damage...that's already pretty broken.
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