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On 2017-04-24 18:26:55Show this Author Only
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what do u guys think who have the most hard hitting mystery at the moment
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On 2017-04-24 20:39:26Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2017-04-24 05:24:31
  • It's not based on Water Teams, it's individual skillset.

    Chojuro requires Water Ninjas/Mei/Swordman to be truly effective and GNW Tenten needs Mei/Mabui


    Tobirama can benefit in a lot of teams just due to his mystery and Taijutsu buff.
    Remember, it's individual measurement, not "Which Ninjas work best with" etc.
    This post was last edited by Tobei at 2017-4-23 16:25
for usefulness, i don't see it much better than GNW tenten to be honest. 15% more critical is comparable with 30% more taijutsu. tenten chases are a lot better than tobirama's one and also the mysteries are comparable (yes tobirama mystery is stronger but tenten mystery can be used on round 1 that makes it way better). This post was last edited by 988***@uf16 at 2017-4-24 20:54
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On 2017-04-24 22:25:17Show this Author Only
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Well it my opinion though but why pain-ningendo put at A+ slot,cause for me he deserve to be S rank since he can return first debuff,causing immobile and chaos at the same time,i also use him in my team with Darui,Mabui and MB and work very well since i can beat someone who has 5k higher than me :D
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On 2017-04-24 23:51:05Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2017-04-24 20:39:26
  • for usefulness, i don't see it much better than GNW tenten to be honest. 15% more critical is comparable with 30% more taijutsu. tenten chases are a lot better than tobirama's one and also the mysteries are comparable (yes tobirama mystery is stronger but tenten mystery can be used on round 1 that makes it way better). This post was last edited by 988***@uf16 at 2017-4-24 20:54
Tenten requires specific teammates to be used at maximum potential
If this tier list was specifically for PvP, she'll be higher than Tobirama for sure, but this is overall.
Which Tobirama excels in.

While I'm more into making Tobirama to S instead of S+.

@Falu

Ningendo's kit is actually really strong. However, he has low growth rates and he's pretty squishy
He's practically a chase bot with CC. Which implies his usage is extremely limited.
Compared to Gekido or Jigokudo who can see action in verality of teams due to the strength of their kits.
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On 2017-04-25 14:58:08Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2017-04-24 23:51:05
  • Tenten requires specific teammates to be used at maximum potential
    If this tier list was specifically for PvP, she'll be higher than Tobirama for sure, but this is overall.
    Which Tobirama excels in.

    While I'm more into making Tobirama to S instead of S+.

    @Falu

    Ningendo's kit is actually really strong. However, he has low growth rates and he's pretty squishy
    He's practically a chase bot with CC. Which implies his usage is extremely limited.
    Compared to Gekido or Jigokudo who can see action in verality of teams due to the strength of their kits.
Chojuro and GNW Tenten can not compare to Tobirama.
Tobirama is on another level of it's own and easily S+ by your ninja categorizations tier list.
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On 2017-04-25 15:25:21Show this Author Only
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If you go through all the space-time clusters this season, you will not see 1 person in the top 10 to 20 running Curse Hidan. He might be a good as a mid to mid-high tier ninja, but in high and top tier competition I'd say he falls short and he's really not that good and is very restrictive to certain mains/builds. When he revives, he's easily defeated again with the low hp re-spawn. This post was last edited by 709***@facebook at 2017-5-5 17:24
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On 2017-04-25 15:34:33Show this Author Only
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  • sagebgoku On 2017-04-24 18:26:55
  • what do u guys think who have the most hard hitting mystery at the moment
tsunade hokage for single target, 6 tails for 1 team aoe, tobirama for cross team aoe
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On 2017-04-25 17:55:33Show this Author Only
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hmmm never meet 6 tails in arena This post was last edited by sagebgoku at 2017-4-25 17:57
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On 2017-04-25 17:58:04Show this Author Only
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  • S177Athrun On 2017-04-25 15:34:33
  • tsunade hokage for single target, 6 tails for 1 team aoe, tobirama for cross team aoe
what do u think about kk gaara or sage naruto mystery doesnt they do more damage than 6 tails??
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On 2017-04-25 21:57:48Show this Author Only
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sorry, wat's the point of this tier list again??

btw, my 2 cents, most of the fire ninjas sux except a few. u noticed most of their mystery are not prompt.
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On 2017-04-25 21:59:26Show this Author Only
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  • S177Athrun On 2017-04-25 14:58:08
  • Chojuro and GNW Tenten can not compare to Tobirama.
    Tobirama is on another level of it's own and easily S+ by your ninja categorizations tier list.
    This post was last edited by 709***@facebook at 2017-5-5 17:23
Which is why there was a committee, I fully understand Tobirama's capability, which we all agreed should be S and beyond. Achroma and Waka highly suggested as S+ due to his sheer power and utility. Which I respected.
I'm more PvP centered and Tobirama wouldn't be S+ on that list, He'll struggle to be S imo,
However with that being said. He's staying S+, you've made some excellent points which are backed. And I can fully respect that. And I would totally use my master ball to catch him if I could! : D


@709***@facebook

Hiruzen was pretty hard to personally rate. I've felt his onslaught and I've also dealt with his linear kit.
Has a great Res AoE buff, great damaging mystery and a nit gimmick with Enma summoning that has taunt.
However, he relies on OTK teams that have initiative+Buffs, which would make him the perfect partner for Iruka+Danzo as you've suggested(Had to face my fair share). Now being S+ with Iruka, on the other hand, is Konoha universal, he's arguably the best support unit in the game, which a lot of units relies on him. Not vise versa. Oh and his non-chase hurts alot.

Now on the Hidan comment, I don't necessarily disagree.
He's heavily reliant on tags and certain lineups and I for one would bump him down. (Which will probably be the case when I update the list)
But his damage is heavy and it's one not to be taken lightly. Regardless, you're not wrong


@sagebgoku
Kyuubi Naruto(4-Tails/6Tails) hits alot harder than Sage Naruto.

Thank you for the wonderful insight guys. Love having these discussions.



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On 2017-04-28 12:03:58Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2017-04-25 21:59:26
  • Which is why there was a committee, I fully understand Tobirama's capability, which we all agreed should be S and beyond. Achroma and Waka highly suggested as S+ due to his sheer power and utility. Which I respected.
    I'm more PvP centered and Tobirama wouldn't be S+ on that list, He'll struggle to be S imo,
    However with that being said. He's staying S+, you've made some excellent points which are backed. And I can fully respect that. And I would totally use my master ball to catch him if I could! : D


    @709***@facebook

    Hiruzen was pretty hard to personally rate. I've felt his onslaught and I've also dealt with his linear kit.
    Has a great Res AoE buff, great damaging mystery and a nit gimmick with Enma summoning that has taunt.
    However, he relies on OTK teams that have initiative+Buffs, which would make him the perfect partner for Iruka+Danzo as you've suggested(Had to face my fair share). Now being S+ with Iruka, on the other hand, is Konoha universal, he's arguably the best support unit in the game, which a lot of units relies on him. Not vise versa. Oh and his non-chase hurts alot.

    Now on the Hidan comment, I don't necessarily disagree.
    He's heavily reliant on tags and certain lineups and I for one would bump him down. (Which will probably be the case when I update the list)
    But his damage is heavy and it's one not to be taken lightly. Regardless, you're not wrong


    @sagebgoku
    Kyuubi Naruto(4-Tails/6Tails) hits alot harder than Sage Naruto.

    Thank you for the wonderful insight guys. Love having these discussions.



    This post was last edited by Tobei at 2017-4-25 09:05
so at which rank according to mystery damage u will put sage naruto??
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On 2017-04-28 13:10:23Show this Author Only
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I personally think Choza would at least Rank A.

His kits is pretty balance
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On 2017-04-29 21:31:50Show this Author Only
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This list makes me sad as a free to play player like me is never gonna get The god tier or most S+ tier ninja :'(
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On 2017-04-30 00:48:59Show this Author Only
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Nice list. :)I do however have some objections or statements to make. These are personal opinions and I may or may not be wrong.
They are based on my personal experience fighting, using or fighting the respective ninja.
(I played against people with 12k more BP and who won the barrier, so I have a relatively good fighting experience :P)

1. I wouldn't put Susano'o Sasuke in God Tier if it wasn't for Root but you did specifiy that so I'm ok with it I guess. He didn't seem as tanky as I would expect someone with immunity to ninjutsu and combo to be. And yea he does some damage when he crits but just about as much as a sage naruto who crits (or at least that's how it seemed to me, when fighting 2 distinct people with similar BP, one who had SN, and the other with sasuke, both having similar boosts from Iruka and barrier). He's only advantage over SN in the damage area is that he has a higher chance of critical hit. He is ofc better than sage naruto overall cause of all the other passives.
Also, I rarely see a Susano'o Sasuke team that uses killer intent. That passive makes Sasuke very powerful cause if he kills anything, even a clone, he c*e his mistery again and again. On paper and studying him alone, and not taking other things into consideration, I don't see him god tier. However because of root and killer intent, which make him very dangerous, I think he should be allowed to stay here for now. I'll think about it. :P

2. I think Tsunade would be better of maybe in S+ or even S. Idk how good she is for GNW, but in pvp she always seemed squishy. And from what I've tested with someone on my server, she really only works at her full potential in very specific teams, namely with sakura, water main and a damage dealer (The so called Immortal teams). However these teams aren't THAT hard to counter, just use a mei or someone with loads of crowd control like danzo and they won't be able to use their healing at a high enough rate and they'll die pretty quick unless the user of this team doesn't have signifficantly higher BP. A good example for a counter team that I used against them is chojuro, mifune and mei with MB (with light armor and light beam as standard). It worked against immortal teams with similar even higher BP than mine.
My point is, Tsunade definitely isn't god tier. S+ max.

3. Tendo and Tobirama and monsters when it comes to GNW and are ok when it comes to pvp. In GNW it's clear why they are both great, I would however give a plus to tendo since he can be cast round 1. As far as pvp is concerned, they both have their pros and cons, for example Tobirama is good for damage but kinda squishy, Tendo is pretty tanky does good damage and has cc but he is very picky when it comes to making teams for him. My point is maybe they should be in the same tier, wether you upgrade Tendo or downgrade Tobirama.

4. I think Hidan and Ay are slightly stronger and more useful than the other ninja in the S+ Tier. And also, call me a noob, but I think maybe Minato should be with them as well. From my own experience his tags (which allow me to do more damage to the enemy) and +40% resistance buff (which help you become much tankier) can help you win a match that would otherwise be lost. Also his evasion rate is very useful, though it's not as high as I would except. Even so, Minato is the type of ninja that can help you win a match against a more powerfull oponent that has higher initiative and wins the field (this is a fact).
Actually, maybe Hashirama is ok where he is, since if he does win his barrier, the cc and the buffs can be game changers.
It also depends on how you look at it, however. If you do take into account GNW, than ofc, hidan's, tobirama's, minato's and hashirama's value greatly increase. With 3 hidans you can whipe out a great portion of the battlefield in round 1. Tobirama, Minato and Hashirama give very useful buff for the entire field. And ofc Tobirama can take down a signifficant amount of the enemy HP, however, at this part Tendo is better since he can do it round 1.
Sage naruto? Idk...he's not really a game changer. And in my opinion if you aren't a game changer, than you definitely shouldn't be in this tier. Maybe S is better.
Sailor sakura? She's very good, but I see her more as an S than S+.
Iruka? Same as with SN. He ain't game changer, I don't think he can be here. Maybe S or even A.
My point is, here in S+ there should be Hidan, Ay, Minato, Tobirama and Tendo (only if you consider GNW), Hashirama and maybe Hokage Tsunade.

5. 6 Tails Naruto and Itachi are the only true god tier shinobi in this game at the moment. I have no objections regarding them whatsoever. They are good in every situation.

Sry for the extremely long post. xD


This post was last edited by SenjuMusashi at 2017-4-30 00:50
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On 2017-04-30 19:56:55Show this Author Only
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This is actually a very accurate list!
I somehow don't disagree on anything except the placement of Kid Obito, he's absolute garbage, he shouldn't even be on the level of an average ninja like Zabuza.
That's all!
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On 2017-05-02 00:44:00Show this Author Only
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Hello good sir, I have to ask you do you have a jonin medal?
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On 2017-05-02 00:52:42Show this Author Only
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  • Slavation On 2017-05-02 00:44:00
  • Hello good sir, I have to ask you do you have a jonin medal?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/235419519319932929.png


> Tier has been updated.
> Nagato has been ranked.
> Edo Treasure Ninjas has been added to Unranked
> Adjustments were made.
> Patch Notes will be included in the next patch.
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On 2017-05-02 02:38:22Show this Author Only
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http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=11267&highlight=Tier

Seems really similar to something I made post kage - At least credit me next time, thanks.
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On 2017-05-02 02:55:08Show this Author Only
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Hello, a very helpful list.
But if possible, could you add a section for counter play for each of these ninjas as well? :)
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