• S177Athrun On 2017-04-25 15:34:33
• tsunade hokage for single target, 6 tails for 1 team aoe, tobirama for cross team aoe

• Tobei On 2017-04-25 21:59:26
• Which is why there was a committee, I fully understand Tobirama's capability, which we all agreed should be S and beyond. Achroma and Waka highly suggested as S+ due to his sheer power and utility. Which I respected.
  I'm more PvP centered and Tobirama wouldn't be S+ on that list, He'll struggle to be S imo,
  However with that being said. He's staying S+, you've made some excellent points which are backed. And I can fully respect that. And I would totally use my master ball to catch him if I could! : D
  
  
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  Hiruzen was pretty hard to personally rate. I've felt his onslaught and I've also dealt with his linear kit.
  Has a great Res AoE buff, great damaging mystery and a nit gimmick with Enma summoning that has taunt.
  However, he relies on OTK teams that have initiative+Buffs, which would make him the perfect partner for Iruka+Danzo as you've suggested(Had to face my fair share). Now being S+ with Iruka, on the other hand, is Konoha universal, he's arguably the best support unit in the game, which a lot of units relies on him. Not vise versa. Oh and his non-chase hurts alot.
  
  Now on the Hidan comment, I don't necessarily disagree.
  He's heavily reliant on tags and certain lineups and I for one would bump him down. (Which will probably be the case when I update the list)
  But his damage is heavy and it's one not to be taken lightly. Regardless, you're not wrong
  
  
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  Kyuubi Naruto(4-Tails/6Tails) hits alot harder than Sage Naruto.
  
  Thank you for the wonderful insight guys. Love having these discussions.
  
  
  
  This post was last edited by Tobei at 2017-4-25 09:05