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On 2017-04-21 15:58:09Show this Author Only
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  • Gawerty On 2017-04-21 15:50:06
  • And yet again, I bring up the point, this game isn't meant for F2P people to get everything right away or as quickly as P2W, otherwise, there'd be no point in P2W to begin with.
progression wise yes, playstyle no, this game is catering to kids and teenagers...unless u have a job or using ur parents credit card be my guest, other than that, the progression system only makes u progress faster with money, but this game is pretty much more casual friendly than anything, so my understanding is, you're against people having a free tendo then? assuming you're one of those persons who wasted 400 pulls on tendo treasure back then, and now you're mad.
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On 2017-04-21 16:13:12Show this Author Only
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I'm against people complaining about every event not catering to them when they aren't supporting the game in the slightest, these things aren't free, games like this obviously have a second model, and that's business. They'll naturally cater to those who pay money over those who /don't/ - This isn't to say they don't care about the ones that don't, but they've got to keep that cash flow coming in, so they'll do what makes the ones who actively spend money happy.

And I will admit I do spend money on the game, but I haven't ever been upset at the money i've spent, nor do I go crazy with it and buy as you mentioned 400 Tendo Pulls, I'm not *. When i buy something, it's because it's a good deal in my eyes, and not a 50/50 risk which is a very vicious thing in this game.
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On 2017-04-21 16:14:14Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 15:56:46
  • Why are you not happy? this game doesn't owe you or anybody anything.You got free charms you should be happy. always complaining.... without p2w's you wouldn't be playing the game.
you're not telling me any news there dude, but let's not forget who really keeps this game alive which are f2p actually,...and some spenders got banned due to refunds, so much for keeping the game alive hum?
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On 2017-04-21 16:15:08Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-04-21 15:58:09
  • progression wise yes, playstyle no, this game is catering to kids and teenagers...unless u have a job or using ur parents credit card be my guest, other than that, the progression system only makes u progress faster with money, but this game is pretty much more casual friendly than anything, so my understanding is, you're against people having a free tendo then? assuming you're one of those persons who wasted 400 pulls on tendo treasure back then, and now you're mad.
I'm pure f2p (I can even show a screenshot of the 1st time Gabra recharge if you want).

I haven't pulled a Tendo before, which is pretty obvious for an f2p (Most of the time, I'm sure some f2p somewhere have gone full Scrolls for the Hashi or Tendo). But I still do not want a full Tendo to be given. I completed the Ultimate Training yesterday, and there's quite a handful or even large number of players who have done so as well.

The last thing I want is to see Tendo running freely everywhere. It'll just break the game in my opinion. Yes, looking at it individually, everyone wants a Tendo for themselves. Get to make new teams, play with a strong ninja (Strength is relative, so he may be strong to someone but weak to another), but I don't want to see all Tendo teams in GNW. This is like the 5th Hokage Tsunade coding error in Germany that resulted in so many 5th Hokages running around that the players started complaining the game is now broken over there. But as players are everywhere in every game, there is no satisfaction. There's always a complain after another.
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On 2017-04-21 16:15:24Show this Author Only
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  • Gawerty On 2017-04-21 16:13:12
  • I'm against people complaining about every event not catering to them when they aren't supporting the game in the slightest, these things aren't free, games like this obviously have a second model, and that's business. They'll naturally cater to those who pay money over those who /don't/ - This isn't to say they don't care about the ones that don't, but they've got to keep that cash flow coming in, so they'll do what makes the ones who actively spend money happy.

    And I will admit I do spend money on the game, but I haven't ever been upset at the money i've spent, nor do I go crazy with it and buy as you mentioned 400 Tendo Pulls, I'm not *. When i buy something, it's because it's a good deal in my eyes, and not a 50/50 risk which is a very vicious thing in this game.
just stfu and give us tendo they haven't given us nothing compare to china and we aren't * the game doesnt even belong to oasis you oasis supporter
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On 2017-04-21 16:18:05Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-04-21 16:14:14
  • you're not telling me any news there dude, but let's not forget who really keeps this game alive which are f2p actually,...and some spenders got banned due to refunds, so much for keeping the game alive hum?
I think its an unfair call to say f2p is keeping this game alive. This is a mutual relationship between f2p and p2w. Either will crumble without the other.
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On 2017-04-21 16:22:13Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-04-21 16:15:24
  • just stfu and give us tendo they haven't given us nothing compare to china and we aren't * the game doesnt even belong to oasis you oasis supporter
China's 1 year ahead of us? I don't see how your argument is valid. China you can buy TENDO so 76 frags is good, yet you're still complaininig that oasis doesn't cater towards f2p's? you're making all these demands that are unrealistic.
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On 2017-04-21 16:23:24Show this Author Only
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  • JeremyKohBS On 2017-04-21 16:18:05
  • I think its an unfair call to say f2p is keeping this game alive. This is a mutual relationship between f2p and p2w. Either will crumble without the other.
right, i just dont agree with the sentence "p2w keep this game alive"
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On 2017-04-21 16:24:42Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-04-21 16:23:24
  • right, i just dont agree with the sentence "p2w keep this game alive"
I mean let's say no one spent a dime on this game. hypothetically speaking how in the hell would the game get the funds to keep going?
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On 2017-04-21 16:25:07Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 16:24:42
  • I mean let's say no one spent a dime on this game. hypothetically speaking how in the hell would the game get the funds to keep going?
Maybe if they played ad's every other min but it's just unrealistic man.
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On 2017-04-21 16:25:37Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2017-04-21 16:23:24
  • right, i just dont agree with the sentence "p2w keep this game alive"
I definitely don't agree any of the 2 groups keeps this game alive individually, so you're right to get annoyed when people claim otherwise, cause I do too.
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On 2017-04-21 16:27:43Show this Author Only
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  • JeremyKohBS On 2017-04-21 16:25:37
  • I definitely don't agree any of the 2 groups keeps this game alive individually, so you're right to get annoyed when people claim otherwise, cause I do too.
I hate to say it, but when f2p's start complaining/asking for full tendo and blah blah , doesn't that annoy you?
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On 2017-04-21 16:31:41Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 16:27:43
  • I hate to say it, but when f2p's start complaining/asking for full tendo and blah blah , doesn't that annoy you?
It is very annoying. I can be called an Oasis supporter, or a *bag or whatever, but the reality is I support Naruto Online as a whole, Oasis does things their way, do we all agree? No. Can we change it? No. That's the point I want to make. P2W will always have the advantage, and nothing will ever change that.

I'd also like to point out that, Naruto Online NA came out a year after the chinese version, and things here are going to be different than there, people always compare the two, but they are TWO seperate editions of the same game, not everything will be the same even if some things are. This post was last edited by Gawerty at 2017-4-21 03:32
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On 2017-04-21 16:36:21Show this Author Only
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See, we can set the record straight for some of the people who clearly still have Oasis' diick up their ass.

People don't want a full free Tendo, what they want is, options to acquire those remaining frags from him, in ways other then chase missions which is rare, and on that subject, theres also a little rumor going around he's been taken out of them now too, but thats just a rumor i heard spread.

Without f2p, p2w would get bored much quicker as who would they then pick on and beat up? Clearly not the more p2w people then them. And also without p2w, f2p would suffer just as much, without each other, their would be a collapse. But what would make it better, is you snobby, elitist p2w's that think just because you pay, your opinion is more valid, and your word means more then the people who dont.

As someone who has put money into this after being a f2p for awhile, the elitist ones really need to sit down.
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On 2017-04-21 16:36:25Show this Author Only
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  • Gawerty On 2017-04-21 16:31:41
  • It is very annoying. I can be called an Oasis supporter, or a *bag or whatever, but the reality is I support Naruto Online as a whole, Oasis does things their way, do we all agree? No. Can we change it? No. That's the point I want to make. P2W will always have the advantage, and nothing will ever change that.

    I'd also like to point out that, Naruto Online NA came out a year after the chinese version, and things here are going to be different than there, people always compare the two, but they are TWO seperate editions of the same game, not everything will be the same even if some things are. This post was last edited by Gawerty at 2017-4-21 03:32
I know they can't get that over their head, the p2w's fund the game obviously some event's are going to cater to us. but they have a variety of free event's too. but you're asking way too much from oasis which is just too * unrealistic. we can't change anything.
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On 2017-04-21 16:37:37Show this Author Only
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  • AhMazeln On 2017-04-21 16:36:21
  • See, we can set the record straight for some of the people who clearly still have Oasis' diick up their ass.

    People don't want a full free Tendo, what they want is, options to acquire those remaining frags from him, in ways other then chase missions which is rare, and on that subject, theres also a little rumor going around he's been taken out of them now too, but thats just a rumor i heard spread.

    Without f2p, p2w would get bored much quicker as who would they then pick on and beat up? Clearly not the more p2w people then them. And also without p2w, f2p would suffer just as much, without each other, their would be a collapse. But what would make it better, is you snobby, elitist p2w's that think just because you pay, your opinion is more valid, and your word means more then the people who dont.

    As someone who has put money into this after being a f2p for awhile, the elitist ones really need to sit down.
Like I said earlier there are way's to acquire tendo in the future but all f2p's are asking for it now which is unrealistic as the event just came out 24 hours ago.
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On 2017-04-21 16:43:19Show this Author Only
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  • Gawerty On 2017-04-21 16:31:41
  • It is very annoying. I can be called an Oasis supporter, or a *bag or whatever, but the reality is I support Naruto Online as a whole, Oasis does things their way, do we all agree? No. Can we change it? No. That's the point I want to make. P2W will always have the advantage, and nothing will ever change that.

    I'd also like to point out that, Naruto Online NA came out a year after the chinese version, and things here are going to be different than there, people always compare the two, but they are TWO seperate editions of the same game, not everything will be the same even if some things are. This post was last edited by Gawerty at 2017-4-21 03:32
i think you missed the point there, yes they are 2 versions, but of the same game. So why are there so many differences between them?

and dont come with the "they are older then us BS" i'm talking comparing the same point in development to CN version we are still behind in a lot of stuff (and in a completelly diferent place is another) mainly the way F2P get access to new ninjas. and no, i'm not talking about tendo (at this point couldn't care less about him), i'm talking about shops and events pricing.

to be even more realistic i wouldn't even compare us to the CN version, but to the Taiwan version, and even compared to them we are still behind on that.

What most of us actually expect is for the same game but in English instead of Chinese so we can actually understand the game and what is going on.
Why they insist on trying to be different of something people actually like and want doesnt make that much sense.
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On 2017-04-21 16:44:05Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 16:27:43
  • I hate to say it, but when f2p's start complaining/asking for full tendo and blah blah , doesn't that annoy you?
It really does annoy me to the point I close the tab and window with that thread on it.

If you give maybe for example, a Danzo in this Ultimate Training, they will complain and say China gives Tendo. They give a Tendo (but bare in mind, at the same stage of the game where China was at when this 1st released), they had 76 frags as well, but some complain and compare it China of the now, which is 2 years ahead and say they get all 80 frags, while some say Oasis claims to want be different from China but do the same thing. Basically, players here just want to be privileged and get the best of both worlds.

I personally would love a Tendo, who wouldn't. But don't go crying foul all over the forums with threads of how ridiculous Oasis isn't giving it, calling threats to say we'll quit the game, I won't recharge. 1 month later, these same players are back in the forums, complaining about something else. I've even seen players in this thread call their bluff and say they won't recharge, spend ingots, etc. 2 weeks later, recharge wheel galore with the name going across the screen 20 times. Its reach a point now that although the player base assumes that the people who say they won't recharge, all really keep to their word, but there's also the game of bluff that Oasis is calling out on.

Bottom line: Its 76 frags, live with it, be it you're f2p or p2w. If you want to quit the game, just do it, stop calling bluff, eventually Oasis just sees you as the boy who cried wolf when their accountant still shows a profit, even if its possibly decreasing.
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On 2017-04-21 16:54:58Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 16:36:25
  • I know they can't get that over their head, the p2w's fund the game obviously some event's are going to cater to us. but they have a variety of free event's too. but you're asking way too much from oasis which is just too * unrealistic. we can't change anything.
I dont agree with the we cant change anything part, i do agree with most of what you said.
we can change things if we * together and fight back, within reason.
the problem is that most people will only ask for the stuff they want with complete disregard for the others and them complain to all hell because they aren't heard.

the only language they care is money, and that turns f2p players in to muted objects to be used, so the only chance we get is if paying players join us and stop spending for a little while until things are changed for the better, for all of us.
but there will always be some that will just throw their wallets at the screen not caring for the community, and that is why things dont change.

and yes they do have free events, but on weeks like this one, what do you get for free? nothing decent.
now if they balanced it to have at least 1 decent free event every week that would actually be much better.
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On 2017-04-21 16:56:32Show this Author Only
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  • JirayaForever On 2017-04-21 16:24:42
  • I mean let's say no one spent a dime on this game. hypothetically speaking how in the hell would the game get the funds to keep going?
I think what he's implying is that p2w do keep the game alive with their spending.
However, they spend to gain an advantage over the majority, right? Majority is f2p or people who spend barely anything. lol. Lets assume these f2p and etc. leave. P2w will either have "fun" trying to kill other p2w or become bored due to dead servers and end up leaving themselves.
Although I agree that asking for a whole Tendo ASAP is unrealistic, you have to realize that just because they give f2p something for free, like those free charms, doesn't mean that they should be happy and not have the right to complain about anything. Lets say charms came out and f2p get 0. They have to store from scratch. LOL. Yeah, don't kill the community and drive everyone away. No f2p, no p2w, and game dies anyways.
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