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[ Suggestions ] Ninja Set 4 and 5?

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On 2017-04-19 11:53:21Show All Posts
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coin trial might needs it own

some sealed might be too hard for generic PvE (then again, it depends on what the PVE slot is used for)

group trial might require special teams (note plural as there are different ones)

There are two SA, thou they don't switch very frequently, they do switch

Some people have more than one PvP team, some special counter team that are used in plunder etc against known targets.

Group summon if you are OCD enough, thou considering it's easy enough to kill for most this isn't a need.

5 would make me happy, thou it's truly the more the merrier here.
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On 2017-04-19 13:55:32Show All Posts
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  • MadChaos On 2017-04-19 13:00:43
  • I'm good with the 3 we have it's easy to swap ninjas either way. I guess this is lazy ppl problems.
The thing is, different team require different min-max gear compo, this is more or less a result of the purify system.
For PvP team, init is what you want to sort gears by
For fox/coin trail team, you will want to go by crit, let your highest damage dealers deal even more.
For PvE team, a lot of time it's better to go by combo, so that you can more reliably proc combo w/o using mystery.
On the other hand, SA requires stability, it is possible that you DONT want your ninja to proc combo (this is a problem in Hanzo SA, I don't want my neji to proc his combo)
And depending on purpose, perhaps sometimes you want a mixture of them.

Switching ninja is easy, switching gear isn't. Right now, my SA team isn't optimized. My TI team technically isn't optimized but it's gotten to the point where it's too easy for me to care. I would probably re-optimize a team for group instance, but I don't have a slot for that.

If I were lazy, I won't even bother switching team between group summon and nine tail fox, they are similar, but they aren't the same. The problem is in the EXACT requirements of different task, and in order to min-max, it's more complicated than simply switching ninjas.

If you aren't aware of those fine details, then I have to say YOU are the lazy one.
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On 2017-04-19 20:22:59Show All Posts
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  • MadChaos On 2017-04-19 16:45:48
  • I'm aware of them details but most of the ninja i swap for use the same gear of the ninja that I swapped for. for My SA group I only have to switch one ninja. for group instance, I use the same team as pve. for nine tails same as group summon. it all depends if u already have the right gear on ur ninjas in my opinion.so that's two slots only used then I can have a third team for pvp I don't really see what the problem is here'? as in If u need to switch tank just swap tank for tank lmao. the only time u should have to swap gear is when it's a tai user for a nin user and vice-versa
Like I said, the issue is purify. If you sort each of your gear in order of init, you will end up with different sets than if you do crit. Fox/coin SHOULD do it by crit whereas PvP needs init.
And then there are special cases where you might want to focus on one or two combo before sorting by init or crit, or just the opposite, focus on one with lowest combo before sorting by init or crit.

If purify wasn't a thing, 3 teams would be sufficient with ninja switch. But purify IS a thing, so if you don't understand, then it means you are still a newbie, you have much to learn.
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On 2017-04-22 12:23:11Show All Posts
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  • mikrolleg On 2017-04-22 12:01:24
  • the thing there's high refined gears you focused on for position 1 ninja for pvp, not everyone has maxed out all 4 sets. And when I do pvp, the character main is not always the same, some requires the main to be wearing the best gears and some requires another ninja to be wearing it. It's always different on Sage and different on GNW, 9tails, TeamInstance and wanted. Plus you have to set the PVE lineup so that the auto mode is perfect. I can't switch gears using ninja swap because the main can not be swapped with a ninja.
oh yeah, there is that too, my formation 2 actually have my main wearing highest init, where as 3 is one of the "others"

Oh, and for the record, #1 is sorted by crit. None of the 3 are interchangeable AT ALL.

I'm sure I can make use of more slots with alternative crit/init/combo configs.
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