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1＃ Go ToWell hello there. I am here to complain on how broken arena while also giving some proof on how broken it actually is. But before I start, right now I am a level 77 with 29.1K BP (IMO I'm not underpowered seeing how my equipment is lvl 70 and I don't have all of my tools +1, only the necklaces, robe and scroll), my Sage Naruto has 1727 initiative and my Onoki has 1444 initiative, while the others have a bit over 1100 and also I am completely F2P. My rank is Jonin right now, Jonin -10 because I had to prove that the arena is broken and to let other people know what's all about it, so they don't turn up like I do with -10.
All I did is fight in the arena, and ask the people what level they are, some of them said something, some actually said their level while most were completely silent, so I don't have THAT many screenshots of people with higher levels than me. I didn't do screenshots all the way from 74(from when I started taking screenshots) up until now, and for a while I didn't even bother with arena. In my cancerous journey of anger I've encountered: A level 80, a level 85, a level 84, a level 90(yeah, 13 levels difference), a level 89(while I was 75, 14 levels differnece), a level 83 and someone who was very *y and had higher initiative than me on every ninja so I guess they are over 80. I can safely say, that arena is broken. How does the game expect me to win with such a level disadvantage? Not only they are higher level, so they get initiative solely from higher level, but they also are higher level than 90% of my server, so they are from older servers, SO they had more time to get more refines than me. Okay, what's worse? I am -10, I will still get matched with people from Super Kage and it expect me to win games so I can get my rank back, yeah, like that's going to happen anytime soon.
What are my tips? Unless you are 90 and have high initiative/ an OP team(which trust me, 90% of the teams that you can think of aren't even OP) don't even bother. 50% of the time you will get matched with Mabui, GNW Tenten, Water Main and Mei(whoever has the higher initiative wins) or Kimimaro, Lightning Main, Iruka and Sasuke running root of the warrior(which again, will win whoever has higher initiative or who can clear the paralysis). Feel like under 90 but think you have a chance in arena? Go ahead, I am not stopping you, but you will hit a -10 wall sooner or later(sooner if you are under 80).
Edit: Check the chat to see what I ask them.
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Well,both players are level 100 in arena so power wise both players are the same,regarding the op team, teams are part of what sets strong players from weak players to some extent,and everyone's gotta think of a better team at some point (or just copy someone's team ^^)
Initive is the only thing that sux though,u'll just have to deal with ppl who's got higher initive than you. -
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It's not broken, it's working exactly as intended, this way the rewards will trend towards those who have spent the most money, You're playing a p2w browser game. The whales (who otherwise have empty, meaningless lives) get to feel superior while normal people feel enticed to spend money to gain an advantage.
It's the same when they introduced cross server matsuri, people complained then too and nothing has been changed, because it's the perfect system, help the whales feel like they have finally accomplished something in life while trying to entice other people to spend.
Rewards trend towards the top, this is true in any single aspect of this game. Anything that Oasis can do to facilitate that is intentional, because there is no game, it's just a skinner box designed to alleviate whales from their "hard earned" money (hard earned usually meaning their parents money, like the guy on my servers 80k odd power where the guy in 2nd place has like 50k, he's not shy about being a dumb rich kid, he actively claims this without any sense of shame). -
the game does not expect you to win. It's meant like that. It places you where you should belong. If you invested a lot of time in the game you would be most likely above the other's who are new. If you invested both time and money, then you'd be at the top. And if you know that you've always been behind initiation most of the time, then find a lineup that does not rely on it. The most popular was the fire seal tobi pre 2.0 it has beaten a lot of spenders who wanted to use their $$$ ninja, and guess what, the p2w weren't happy so they nerfed tobi. It's simply like that. The game caters to those who spend, because they bring in the cash. They don't even cater too casual spenders. Many players are willing to spend like 50-60$ in the game but they feel it's not worth their cash so they remained f2p. This post was last edited by 115***@google at 2017-4-17 02:10 This post was last edited by 115***@google at 2017-4-17 02:10
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What you should have asked is their init, which is about the only factor that really matters. level, nope, it doesn't really matter (granted, level implies longer playing time and therefore more time to gather resource and therefore likely higher init, but that's not a given)
On a side note, our server have a ftp lv 72 with 35.7k power, she'd probably eat your face raw with no sauce in arena, masuri or anywhere else you might encounter her. Level is about the least useful indicator there is after lv 50, 53 and 55 or so (summon/talent unlock is a huge deal, that's the only reason those levels matter) -
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Do you think that if I were to ask anyone their initiative they would actually know it of the top of their head? They barely told me their level, asking for their initiative would simply be a waste of time. Yeah, level matters because of time difference, my server doesn't even have a lvl 90, the max power is a lvl 86.
And on your side note, bravo to her, you put it in such a way that it seems like your are bragging but regardless, that's not the point. She is one of the fewer people who have that power at level 72. I am talking about the general crowd.
I can GUARANTEE you that those 80 lvl and above have higher power than me, power which also translates in refines. And also, if those level 80s+ were underpowered, they would not even be in Jonin+ ranks. If arena was actually balanced around power or anything in that matter, I would get matched with mid-high 70s and low 80s, but I am getting matched with mid 80s, so to me, the point that the arena is broken still stands. And it's not even balanced by ranks, because even if I am on -10, I barely get matched with Jonin ranks or lower, I keep getting matched with Kage and Super Kages, so still, my point still applies. -
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- On 2017-04-17 02:07:29
- the game does not expect you to win. It's meant like that. It places you where you should belong. If you invested a lot of time in the game you would be most likely above the other's who are new. If you invested both time and money, then you'd be at the top. And if you know that you've always been behind initiation most of the time, then find a lineup that does not rely on it. The most popular was the fire seal tobi pre 2.0 it has beaten a lot of spenders who wanted to use their $$$ ninja, and guess what, the p2w weren't happy so they nerfed tobi. It's simply like that. The game caters to those who spend, because they bring in the cash. They don't even cater too casual spenders. Many players are willing to spend like 50-60$ in the game but they feel it's not worth their cash so they remained f2p. This post was last edited by 115***@google at 2017-4-17 02:10 This post was last edited by 115***@google at 2017-4-17 02:10
Just so you know he got nerfed in the same 2.0 patch in every region because he was universally broken. The only ones I ever saw complain about Tobi were other F2P or low spenders. Paying players didn't care because we either knew he was strong and 5* him early or we just beat him with better comps. However, just as he got nerfed for being too strong he will later get the same buff that other regions got too and regain some damage and his revive, but that's in another patch update. The game does cater to those who spend but they don't nerf a ninja in every single region, in the same 2.0 patch no less, for no reason you *. -
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- The Almighty On 2017-04-17 09:54:08
- why are you even using ino and shika if your team is not full control? you gotta have at least hashirama in there
Uhmmm.. do you think Hashirama grows in trees?(pun intended). Hashirama is impossible for me to get, a F2P player so yeah. I am using Make out Paradise Shikamaru, for the repulse to knockdown chase and knockdown to immobile which allows me to stop anyone who is slower than me(Having Main and Onoki 1st and 2nd allow me to stop a large amount of people) Why I use Ino? Do you know any healers who are either earth, wind and fire? Karin? Yeah sure, link her up with another knockdown to high float, while her not even being that good of a healer. Shizune? Same problem. Jigokudo? Do you think I can dig him up or something? Ino? Yeah, why not? She buffs Shikamaru, she heals 2 people, she gets buffed by Shikamaru, works with Onoki's barrier and whenever I am fighting squads with no root, their turn 2 is broken in some way or form. To interrupt someone I could also use GNW Neji, but I don't have him, Ao who doesn't work, Hinata who doesn't work..see, my options are limited. Plus, I wouldn't even get to Jonin if the team "was bad". -
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This doesn't prove anything. In arena both players, you and the opponent are Lv100. So there goes power-wise. But team and stats-wise, it is completely different. In arena all stats play a significant role. Did you guys expect it not to rely on your stats and be completely random? It's a turn-base game. Of course the question of "Who moves first comes into play." That's how these sort of games work. -
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