Are group summons working as intended?

AkashaMoka

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On 2017-04-16 16:14:36 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Seems to be working.

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Loaf

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On 2017-04-16 16:28:00 ｜ Show this Author Only

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AkashaMoka On 2017-04-16 16:14:36
Seems to be working.

Yeah yeah live it up. We'll be the ones laughing when your $8000 ninjas die to one hit from a snake against free players. This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-4-16 16:46 This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-4-16 16:47

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Skymind

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On 2017-04-16 17:05:15 ｜ Show this Author Only

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It's working fine. It's Group summon after all ... will be pretty * if do only 5k dmg and disappear right? And your group just need to level him to max level and everything will be fine. You are just not happy because you lose this gnw round :lol . F2P player are not target dummy's for your 75k power members. They must have a chance to win also.

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AhMazeln

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On 2017-04-16 20:10:56 ｜ Show this Author Only

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So basically, a snake whooped you, so you're salty and want to assume it shouldn't be working that way?
There was a 1 in 6 chance for it to go up against the field and people in that field.

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AkashaMoka

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On 2017-04-16 22:42:49 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Loaf On 2017-04-16 16:28:00
Yeah yeah live it up. We'll be the ones laughing when your $8000 ninjas die to one hit from a snake against free players. This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-4-16 16:46 This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-4-16 16:47

No one's laughing, you just overreact and make assumptions. The snake is meant to be a huge advantage over a field. Once your snake gets to the same level it will do the same thing. I understand maybe its OP cause you were all wiped out, but really later on more events come for us and we will have more life/defense/damage reductions. Those will factor later on. You guys will do the same thing to us so, it's not a big deal that you lost to a snake. This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-4-16 22:46 This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-4-16 23:05

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GenJuhru

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On 2017-04-16 23:06:30 ｜ Show this Author Only

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After a few weeks of saying the group summon was underwhelming, then this happened.

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Loaf

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On 2017-04-17 01:28:10 ｜ Show this Author Only

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AkashaMoka On 2017-04-16 22:42:49
No one's laughing, you just overreact and make assumptions. The snake is meant to be a huge advantage over a field. Once your snake gets to the same level it will do the same thing. I understand maybe its OP cause you were all wiped out, but really later on more events come for us and we will have more life/defense/damage reductions. Those will factor later on. You guys will do the same thing to us so, it's not a big deal that you lost to a snake. This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-4-16 22:46 This post was last edited by AkashaMoka at 2017-4-16 23:05

A huge advantage is making your opponent use mysteries to defeat something thats hitting them hard, not obliterating them into an unrecoverable state or just defeating them all together from 100%.

Yes, we will get free stats later. This is now. As it is it now wherever you put a max summon it just wins the field uncontested. That doesn't really seem like the way it should be.

The fact that I mentioned it was defeating higher bp players was to enforce my point that the summon is way too strong and not balanced around the normal power levels of the game at all.

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MrFlo

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On 2017-04-17 01:51:40 ｜ Show this Author Only

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a p2w talking about balance

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JustAClone

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On 2017-04-17 07:49:28 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Your "awesome" strategy doesn't sound very awesome since it seems as if you've completely disregarded the group summon and/or failed to upgrade your own group snake - which is a good strategy too.

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Loaf

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On 2017-06-04 11:57:29 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Almost two months later we still are lacking this mysterious battle power needed to fight the snake, thi sis the different of snakes 1 group level apart. It seems to me it's designed for all players to be 100k+ bp and was released way too early. Keep in mind this screenshot is taken after the battle of snake vs snake.
This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-6-4 11:59

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Dym

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On 2017-06-04 21:35:33 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Loaf On 2017-06-04 11:57:29
Almost two months later we still are lacking this mysterious battle power needed to fight the snake, thi sis the different of snakes 1 group level apart. It seems to me it's designed for all players to be 100k+ bp and was released way too early. Keep in mind this screenshot is taken after the battle of snake vs snake.
This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-6-4 11:59

Pretty sure group level means nothing, just Snake level and how fed it is. If all players were 100k+ Snake would die without doing nothing, it would be pointless. It's working as intended, it's meant to wipe one team and give a group an advantage on that field 2 teams vs 3 teams.

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IamAscrub

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On 2017-06-05 02:06:20 ｜ Show this Author Only

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I feel the problem is with the exponential scaling of the snake.

Group level does matter, in the sense that each group level increase the snake's max level by 5.

A lvl 60 snake (group level 5) is a free kill for 30k power players.
A lvl 70 snake (group level 7) does pretty much nothing against 40k power players.
A lvl 80 snake (group level 9) takes about 1/3 off 60k power players.
A lvl 90 snake (group level 11) easily obliterate 80k power players.

The snake is far too weak at lower levels, and scales up too rapidly at higher levels.

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Dym

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On 2017-06-05 03:46:17 ｜ Show this Author Only

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IamAscrub On 2017-06-05 02:06:20
I feel the problem is with the exponential scaling of the snake.

Group level does matter, in the sense that each group level increase the snake's max level by 5.

A lvl 60 snake (group level 5) is a free kill for 30k power players.
A lvl 70 snake (group level 7) does pretty much nothing against 40k power players.
A lvl 80 snake (group level 9) takes about 1/3 off 60k power players.
A lvl 90 snake (group level 11) easily obliterate 80k power players.

The snake is far too weak at lower levels, and scales up too rapidly at higher levels.

I thought snake max level is tied to current highest level on the server, at least that's what it said, well ours was already 11 or 12 when it came out so never had chance to see it, but lvl 12 group still has only lvl 90 cap not 95.

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IamAscrub

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On 2017-06-05 04:20:55 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Dym On 2017-06-05 03:46:17
I thought snake max level is tied to current highest level on the server, at least that's what it said, well ours was already 11 or 12 when it came out so never had chance to see it, but lvl 12 group still has only lvl 90 cap not 95.

It's both, whichever is lower. If you have a lvl 9 group but highest level is lvl 78, snake caps out at 78. If you have a lvl 9 group but highest level is 90, the snake caps out at 80. Group level is far more likely to be the limiting factor for most servers. You'd reach lvl 90 long before group level 12, where character level actually become the limiting one. This post was last edited by IamAscrub at 2017-6-5 04:23

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