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1＃ Go ToI recently heard an interview with Achroma and got sort of angry. He started talking about Tobei (Another mod) and said he was 65k as a F2P. Then on the forum I saw Tobei having a signature with the whole 65k F2P b/s. Do you mods realize that because you get paid soooo much in coupons you are NOT technically F2P.
When you go around declaring yourself a 65k F2P it is very misleading and quite frankly it scares me because I don't know if you realize how it is for true F2P. If you as mods don't know that 50-55k power is the top F2P power you might not realize how *ty it is for F2P. And this is on an older server.
We need better events for F2P to help close the power gap between them and P2W. If you blindly say someone who gets paid more in coupons than most small spenders actually spend on the game is F2P, you might fool yourself into missing this. I'm not F2P but I see how much they struggle on my server. No true F2P is going to have 65k power at this point. Now, that may change in a few weeks but at the time I am writing this it is impossible.
So please follow your own advice and stop spreading false information, especially for your sake. I do not mean that sarcastically..if you don't realize the error in the claim that Tobei is F2P, then you are seriously missing some of the worst problems the game has at this point in time.
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- RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-04-14 18:54:25
- I acknowledge that f2p is having a hard time, but imo the situation is not as bad as some people might think. Yes its true that the current top power for f2p is around 55k, most * f2p is only over 45k but what that mean is that you can still enjoy the game and play competitively as a f2p. 55k is more than enough for you to be in the top 30 spacetime and most of the top 128 in my server group (which is the first HK sv group) is only around 50k
That isn't the case on LA servers 2-12. Rank 30 is roughly 60-65k (Highest power is 82k; average for top 10 is 70k), sure, but the ninja they have are crazy. More than half of them have Susanoo Sasuke, Ay or both. F2P power can barely catch the tail end of the top 128, infact rank 128 currently is 50k power.
The power of rank 128 to rank 50 fluctuates between 50-60k, but the majority of them are small spenders at the very least because on top of their power they have very powerful ninja. I don't see many pure F2P in top 128 at all. Though its interesting to see how many players in the top 200 from my server have quit. Given this..I guess it would be more valuable to see what F2P power is after the next power system is released...see some of the retired P2W's drop down in ranking a bit, etc.
The power difference is a huge deal because the ninja difference is so vast. The power is the one thing that could be relatively close. The difference between F2P ninja and P2W ninja will always be a gap that can't be over come. But the power is one that we can and should manage. I'm not saying super charge F2P, but boost em up a bit. Let them catch up a tad in terms of raw power. But the best way to start is to manage expectations..and we cannot assume a mod with 65k power is anywhere close to the norm. In my first post I mentioned 55k as maximum F2P strength, but in truth its probably closer to 50k or below. This post was last edited by kpo***@riordanhs.org at 2017-4-14 19:18 -
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- Tobei On 2017-04-14 20:40:14
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Woah!
I spot my name!
Considering I've been name dropped, I believe it's my duty to address this thread with some enlightenment on this situation.
Stating "F2P" on our signatures has absolutely nothing to do with our spending or "way to play the game"
It's merely an inside joke with no bearing on others.
It's within your right and decision to declare yourself however you see fit, I have no ill towards players who proudly declare that they're F2P and this has no bearing on them. Same towards P2P, players have the right to express their livelihood however they see fit.
Now to explain the joke! (Joker laughter)
A couple of colleagues and friends (and members) flips the script on what they declare themselves.
Of course, Achroma and I aren't true F2P (Don't tell him that though!)
These acronyms mean absolutely nothing towards us. We're players and we enjoy the game while having fun doing so, as I stated above, It's your right to declare yourself however you see fit. However in my personal view, stating that you're a "true F2P" or a "wallet warrior" does not make you better than the next player vice versa.
We're all here to have fun and that's the goal towards moving in the future.
Yeah I didn't bring this up to insult anyone. Just point out that if a mod truly thought that 65k was an achievable power for F2P at this point in the game then they are extremely misinformed.
You seem to understand that its not, but you said not to tell Achroma that..I mean..just because you don't spend any of your own money on this game doesn't mean you are F2P..especially when you get paid more than small spenders spend on the game.
Just so we are clear, you guys do see how the F2P community needs to be improved?
EDIT: I also want to add that I don't think Achroma or you, Tobei, are bad mods AT ALL. I think both of you make a solid effort to help the community. That being said, every single person on this planet is capable of making mistakes. And to me the F2P thing seemed like a pretty important one to address. Thank you for taking time to respond to this thread.
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- Achroma On 2017-04-14 20:48:11
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Hey! Since i have been namedropped aswell (duh seems i started a whole controversy) I shall adress this aswell!
Both me and Tobei spend quite alot on this game ourselves, as stated its an inside joke (the interview/podcast with Dripsha) was alot of us *ing around and laughing doing some jokes.
We are well aware that f2p cant reach those levels currently and well aware that the f2p community needs to be improved, i even adress parts of this in the interview (if you take the time to listen and take in all i say altough i ramble alot)
I cannot stress enough how much of a joke the part of us being f2p is. Please dont take it so hard, it was a fun thing to do for me and something mostly to shed some light on things!
As Tobei so perfectly said We're all here to have fun and that's the goal towards moving in the future.
We are constantly striving to improve the game for everyone and that includes f2p!
Thank you for responding to this as well. I am glad that my fears were unfounded. I wish I would have known about the inside joke so I wouldn't have over reacted so much. I listened to the whole podcast btw, I thought it was a very interesting discussion that you two had. It offered a lot of insight into how things really go down behind the scenes. I have to say, I never thought of Ari as a hero...even in the "Evidence" he showed to prove corruption it mostly made him look like a shady son of a BEEP.
Thanks again, and keep up the good work Tobei and Achroma. -
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