On the one hand, 1500 isn't enough, and cloths are useless

On the other hand, a gold tool isn't worth 500 to YOU or anyone else that can farm 32k+ TI, it's worth 500 to a lv 60 who is far far away from 32k on a newish server as it helps him beat down all the other people around him (whereas to you, it's like 10% of a level or 1/7 of a reforge, much less value). I doubt anyone who can farm 32k would buy that package, most people who did are in the 60s or 70s where it's actually worth the price given.

The fair amount would be 500 for the SA(for the medium thread, which is all that matters in the long run) and then 1000-4000 for the TI, the value being different for different player depending on where they are at. The peak of this being at people who are at 32k for the first week, all gold tools income missed while they don't have all gold tool yet. Before that, the drops aren't as good, after that(the first week of farming 32k), the difference that those tools make aren't as large.
For you (and anyone pass 32k), the minimal amount should be 1500 (on top of the 500 for SA, so 2k+ total), given that you are at 42700 power, I'd say around 2000+500 would be around right.

So yes, the compensation is insufficient for many, but you also need to think before you compare two things, they are not always equal. This post was last edited by PraiseLuka at 2017-4-2 10:56

I think it's probably worth it for a lv 60, it's hundreds(200-400, depend on how well the random stat rolls) of "temporary" power for 2-3 month (which is what it roughly takes to get to 32k), temporary as it "expires" once you can actually farm the gold tool.

It's not a huge amount, but it helps with getting more stuff during the 2-3 month. A few extra fight won in sage might impact the rankings, a bit extra damage in fox might do the same, passing exam a few days early to get a bit of advantage in equipment upgrade and so on. Chances are it'd pay for itself by the time the boost "expires".

But no, it's not for a veteran that can farm 32k+ regularly. Stuff are just worth different amount for different people, some of the sales offered simply aren't for everyone.

For a more "extreme" example, I give you the advanced cloth/common thread packs. They are completely worthless to people who are done with those items, but people who haven't might opt to spent on them to hasten their progress. (On that note, if anyone refuse to budge on the gold tool=500 stuff simply because it was there at that price when it isn't meant for everyone, I think it would be hilarious if the mod was like "Fine, here, I'll give you 15k worth of stuff" and proceed to dump 1200 common cloth at the guy)

But anyway, proper comp for 32k+ should have been a set of gold tools, specifically 2 of all the best ones (paper shuriken, tokisaka sword etc), 3 red gourd and 2 random gold tool. For new 32k who have suffered the most, being 1-3k down for a week compared to their peer and thus losing out additionally in sage/fox/GNW etc, this would give them something extra, as normally they won't have such a nice "set" so soon. For people who have farmed 32k+ for a long time, they are just gold tools for reforge/lv up.
1500 is probably around fair for people below the 32k line.

My point is merely that the 500 is not for you, so the full amount isn't 12500.

The full amount varies by person and that it's at most around 4k.

You do know that events are on EVERY server right? Just because there aren't 60s in your server, doesn't mean there aren't on OTHER server where the SAME event happens, and on some of the newer ones where 60s are active and competitive, that's what the 500 is for.

Again, i agree the comp is insufficient, my point is and always was that the "value" comparison using the 500 package is wrong. For anyone who farm 32k and thus apply it to their potential gains, it's the wrong value as it's no longer worth that much. For people who can't farm 32k, that's not what they would get in the first place. So the 25x500 thing applies to NOBODY.

The thing is, if you made a REASONABLE demand, then they might listen to you.

But seeing as you are making an UNREASONABLE demand (and I'm explaining to you why that is), then you have no chances of getting it.

And mods, no offense to them, are probably lazy. They are just going to see a demand and decide on a yes or no answer, they probably won't consider it more fully to see if there is some kind of middle ground. And as such, you won't be getting anywhere at all with your unreasonable demand.

Yes, there is the reasonable option of 25 gold tool in there as well, but there is a VERY good chance that because they already sent some coupons, they are not going to take that route (also it doesn't apply to the pre-32k folks). And by bundling it with an unreasonable option, they might just ignore it altogether when their attention is drawn to the unreasonable demand.

So insisting upon an unreasonable demand will only shoot yourself in the foot and antagonize them and get you nowhere. If you were to consider things more thoroughly, you might actually get somewhere.

But you are risking them noticing the price and then immediately dismiss the entire thread because they see an unreasonable amount. Mods aren't always as attentive and/or patient as they should.

I guess it's up to you to for deciding whether it's worth that risk.