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On 2017-04-02 05:46:17Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Yeah, so in our server there are only 2 remaining active group
we're basically the only ones left that are competing
the 1st group consists of many maaany strong players and more members and the 2nd which is my group that has the 2 strongest people, few strong peeps and some people like myself who are barely trying to keep up.
The fact that the 1st group already overpower us, they even set out 'spies'
we have been trying to clear out whoever we suspect are spies but they're persistent
it's been causing mistrust between our group members and this just basically ruins the gameplay, which *s...
I need some opinion... this is just mayhem in our group at this point
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On 2017-04-02 07:14:10Show this Author Only
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Tell your leader to uncheck white list for everyone except 2 seniors for 2 or 3 weeks to see what happen.
If thing really change and there are really spies among your group, slowly check white list and check who is the spy.
BTW if a spy is a clone of someone, this account usually have low level, very casual. Don't even bother to do stuff like daily events, group boss, etc... but still online for couple days in a week or in some case daily. Also rarely speak, rarely ask for TI help and stuff like that but always online on saturday for GNW.
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On 2017-04-02 07:49:24Show this Author Only
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Happening in ours too. Plus there's a couple *s in the most powerful of group. There's one that acts like a toddler, but is surprisingly he's an adult. Like the person below said, white listing is the best you can do.
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On 2017-04-02 09:04:23Show this Author Only
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honestly.. what is it a spy is supposed to gain?.. if they arent promoted members they cant see the battlefields, and if strategy arent discussed in guild chat i dont see it, which shouldnt be discussed 10min before gnw starts, but set in place before that time.. i dont see what they are supposed to spy on.. besides being able to see how many people are online?
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On 2017-04-02 10:27:50Show this Author Only
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  • flydende On 2017-04-02 09:04:23
  • honestly.. what is it a spy is supposed to gain?.. if they arent promoted members they cant see the battlefields, and if strategy arent discussed in guild chat i dont see it, which shouldnt be discussed 10min before gnw starts, but set in place before that time.. i dont see what they are supposed to spy on.. besides being able to see how many people are online?
They can see their position and if it's a spy that's of a higher level and if you want to stack, they can see if they are lower than the 3rd spot.
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On 2017-04-02 11:53:05Show this Author Only
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ask the leader to white list all members except seniors.
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On 2017-04-02 20:57:06Show this Author Only
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As a Leader in S187 HK, I,myself, only the one who can see and manage the line up, since i'm not mercifull, any su*ious behaviors or getting plundered by the other groups without getting support or even if so, i watch how long the fight lasts, so before making a decision i ask him/her couple of questions then i make up my mind abt situation basically, as I, The most powerful person in the game, and Leading The Most Powerful group, All members' future are in my hands, That's a power that every Leader should have
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On 2017-04-02 23:12:28Show this Author Only
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We've done countless possibilities and also resorted to watching every single group members actions and watch if they are trusted or not as you have stated. But there are those who actually fit in really well that they sometimes create chaos in the group.
I'll take your suggestions into account and I'll be informing the group leader and senior
Thank you very much
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On 2017-04-02 23:22:47Show this Author Only
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ok, As a senior of group she is in I can tell you this. I've been monitoring this problem for a month or so I've been doing weekly growth statistics power/BA lvl +rank upg, donation, I found out more than 5 ppl were alts. We kicked them out, they keep coming back under different names.

To gnw: What can they do? As Noobity*ity said, if I put 6 men team in one field and alt is in the 4th slot, they could guess what stategy would we run.

One more thing our s280 is special, cuz only our side does SS convoys nowadays and alts of some ppl from their group (moreover bcuz they use autoclickers so its almost impossible to plunder them). Members of the other group dont do that since the other group officials banned them to that... So pretty much want us to have good gaming experience.. Its f**ked up, but what can we do? evel up new characters? no, thank you.
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On 2017-04-03 02:28:57Show this Author Only
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  • Gutsy Shinobi On 2017-04-02 23:22:47
  • ok, As a senior of group she is in I can tell you this. I've been monitoring this problem for a month or so I've been doing weekly growth statistics power/BA lvl +rank upg, donation, I found out more than 5 ppl were alts. We kicked them out, they keep coming back under different names.

    To gnw: What can they do? As Noobity*ity said, if I put 6 men team in one field and alt is in the 4th slot, they could guess what stategy would we run.

    One more thing our s280 is special, cuz only our side does SS convoys nowadays and alts of some ppl from their group (moreover bcuz they use autoclickers so its almost impossible to plunder them). Members of the other group dont do that since the other group officials banned them to that... So pretty much want us to have good gaming experience.. Its f**ked up, but what can we do? evel up new characters? no, thank you.
that kindda sums up what i tried to imply.. they can guess.. no more no less and even if they were not there the other guild would still try to guess ur line up.. besides being 4th or so in one field does not give away the full strategy only limits the possible strategies.. i dont see how this would be bad.. they are donating and fighting for u etc.. the only thing the spy accomplishes is furthering the enemies guild.
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On 2017-04-03 10:17:38Show this Author Only
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  • Darksider226 On 2017-04-02 20:57:06
  • As a Leader in S187 HK, I,myself, only the one who can see and manage the line up, since i'm not mercifull, any su*ious behaviors or getting plundered by the other groups without getting support or even if so, i watch how long the fight lasts, so before making a decision i ask him/her couple of questions then i make up my mind abt situation basically, as I, The most powerful person in the game, and Leading The Most Powerful group, All members' future are in my hands, That's a power that every Leader should have
Sounds like if I was in your group I'd have a terrible time. Maybe to each its own and in my opinion your group just sounds not fun.
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On 2017-04-03 15:04:33Show this Author Only
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  • Darksider226 On 2017-04-02 20:57:06
  • As a Leader in S187 HK, I,myself, only the one who can see and manage the line up, since i'm not mercifull, any su*ious behaviors or getting plundered by the other groups without getting support or even if so, i watch how long the fight lasts, so before making a decision i ask him/her couple of questions then i make up my mind abt situation basically, as I, The most powerful person in the game, and Leading The Most Powerful group, All members' future are in my hands, That's a power that every Leader should have
If power was based on commas, I would have no doubt at all about you being the strongest person in the game.


lol

I'm not trolling just kidding so please don't get offended. As for the whole "group spy" thing after a server has been around long enough players will pretty much get to know all the heavy hitters in great detail. You will know the ins and outs of your opponents, as they will know you. I mention this because after its all said and done, placement is the only thing they can really even try to report on.

I typically switch around the lands when the time to start combat draws near. Any information outside of that being used could actually potentially hurt any would-be spying, because either they stack to directly counter a old placement or they move around to a place I truly intend to attack hard and give some lands for free.

At the start of the game spying was a big concern for my group, but back then the white list didn't exist. Even then it was almost impractical...to the point where I found it hard to believe that players would actually try to spy. What is truly important to me (even more than getting rid of "spies") is having active players who contribute. In the past even if I suspected someone was trying to spy on the group, as long as they contributed to our group funds I did not care.

TL;DR Spying is pretty pointless as long as you apply careful counter-measures shortly before match begins. Other than that, use players for Group Activity and Group Funds to help the group grow.
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On 2017-04-04 07:32:32Show this Author Only
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spies can be annying if u disscuss ur stagy in group chat well there active cause they can screen cap and bring it to there leader (in the days befor war) i rec make a discord and only people the leader passes themselves gets into the discord link to disscuss stagys for war thats what server4: fillers has been doing and its amde all the spys leave cause we never use group chat for war anymore or use it to goof off
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On 2017-04-04 08:32:36Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-04-04 07:32:32
  • spies can be annying if u disscuss ur stagy in group chat well there active cause they can screen cap and bring it to there leader (in the days befor war) i rec make a discord and only people the leader passes themselves gets into the discord link to disscuss stagys for war thats what server4: fillers has been doing and its amde all the spys leave cause we never use group chat for war anymore or use it to goof off
I don't usually share my strategy for war with anyone. But what I will do is tell people who their teammates are for war and have them work out a solid strategy and team synergy for each other. I even make up little team names for people.

But sadly I've been doing that less and less as time has gone on.
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On 2017-04-04 11:50:55Show this Author Only
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You could always try starting each gnw land at the third or fourth slot if that's how they're getting your strategies. Leave the first three spots empty so alts think that every land they're in is being stacked?
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On 2017-04-04 22:44:26Show this Author Only
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Hey, we was in same situation. 2 groups in server, the second one has alts in our group. We use white list and we try use this alts. For example enemy group fight 10 or 8 field - one of them only each week, so if I thinking about any low lvl player that he is alt from second group, I put him for example to 8point field on 6th position, but he was alone in this field. Enemy group put their best team to 10point field, because they think we go 8 point field ....gnw starts and we won 8point field thanks this low lvl players for free, because enemy group focus other fields and 8point field they surrender :)

(Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker)
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On 2017-04-05 01:55:13Show this Author Only
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Being a spy is part of being a shinobi
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On 2017-04-05 04:56:26Show this Author Only
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I really don't see the point in spy the advantage it gives is minuscule for the amount of time you would put into doing it, its just not viable or useful as Beji said if they contribute it really doesn't matter what they do beyond that. This post was last edited by Zenkaii at 2017-4-5 05:08
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On 2017-04-05 11:46:35Show this Author Only
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Remove them on whitelists
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On 2017-04-05 12:52:38Show this Author Only
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underhanded tactics are part of life sadly . but yea u always need a strong core in ur group , the rest just remove them from white list. as a senior of my group i know everyone pretty well. whoever does unacceptable things gets kicked.
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