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On 2017-03-30 06:44:12Show this Author Only
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While i do agree it isn't an excuse for oasis to just ignore the community.
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On 2017-03-30 06:45:42Show this Author Only
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My bigest question all these days and mostly biggest concern is how people spend money in general !

You start playing the game and you decide that in order to enjoy things abit faster you are gonna spend some $.

You spend $ on things that you consider entertaining in the game , that being consumables to upgrade BP or ninjas.

Some people including myself like gambling and play with odds and test their luck so the play into these wheels.. If i have to compare them with real gambling and slots in casino i see absolutely no difference , except that every try you do in these wheels gives you a prize ..

So why everyone is so angry and pumped up about how a wheel , or events are rigged when casinos all over the world use the same tacticts in all their slot machines , with the difference that if you lose in slots you get a big ZERO. At least in these wheels you always get something of a bigger or smaller value.


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On 2017-03-30 06:51:39Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-30 06:45:42
  • My bigest question all these days and mostly biggest concern is how people spend money in general !

    You start playing the game and you decide that in order to enjoy things abit faster you are gonna spend some $.

    You spend $ on things that you consider entertaining in the game , that being consumables to upgrade BP or ninjas.

    Some people including myself like gambling and play with odds and test their luck so the play into these wheels.. If i have to compare them with real gambling and slots in casino i see absolutely no difference , except that every try you do in these wheels gives you a prize ..

    So why everyone is so angry and pumped up about how a wheel , or events are rigged when casinos all over the world use the same tacticts in all their slot machines , with the difference that if you lose in slots you get a big ZERO. At least in these wheels you always get something of a bigger or smaller value.


Well According to scources.. lets say Some guy gets the jackpot ninja.. and you see this happen, you'll think oh its obtainable.. let me try and see if i can get that character.. But what you don't know is that jackpot ninja cannot be obtain twice a day.. it can only be obtained once a day.. so everybody keeps recharging spending more trying to get that ninja when they don't know that theres a 0% chance of getting said jackpot ninja. thats where i have problems with Wheeled RNG events. the 0% chance is where i have problems gambling.
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On 2017-03-30 06:58:36Show this Author Only
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  • Kedium On 2017-03-30 06:51:39
  • Well According to scources.. lets say Some guy gets the jackpot ninja.. and you see this happen, you'll think oh its obtainable.. let me try and see if i can get that character.. But what you don't know is that jackpot ninja cannot be obtain twice a day.. it can only be obtained once a day.. so everybody keeps recharging spending more trying to get that ninja when they don't know that theres a 0% chance of getting said jackpot ninja. thats where i have problems with Wheeled RNG events. the 0% chance is where i have problems gambling.
You are absolutely right there and i guess the right thing to do is to just inform the players that max obtainable per day is 1 piece!

Or at least from now on , be cautious and if some1 got the big prize one day never follow ;) !!

I am in a server where casual spenders and f2p are the majority so i guess we are not victims of all these , as nobody spends fortunes into the game. This post was last edited by 102***@facebook at 2017-3-30 07:00
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On 2017-03-30 07:13:33Show this Author Only
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  • Kedium On 2017-03-30 06:51:39
  • Well According to scources.. lets say Some guy gets the jackpot ninja.. and you see this happen, you'll think oh its obtainable.. let me try and see if i can get that character.. But what you don't know is that jackpot ninja cannot be obtain twice a day.. it can only be obtained once a day.. so everybody keeps recharging spending more trying to get that ninja when they don't know that theres a 0% chance of getting said jackpot ninja. thats where i have problems with Wheeled RNG events. the 0% chance is where i have problems gambling.
According to this screenshot:
https://i.gyazo.com/2fdbb1c670729fd78f4dfdf3343f14b2.png

If you look at the winner list and the amount they won, there were a winner at:
73k, 73k, 75k and 85k
As only the last 4 lines are shown, I won't know if there are any prior winners.
Also I'm fairly sure that people are removed from the list randomly, because I'm fairly sure that I saw a 10% winner in the midst of 5% winners in the list for LA server on Tuesday at one time, then when I looked again, no such entry exist (whereas the top of the list, being the oldest entries, are still showing the 250s stuff from before Monday) but I can't be sure.

But in any case, the rate of winning is definitely dramatically reduced, but it wasn't 0.
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On 2017-03-30 08:16:05Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-03-30 07:13:33
  • According to this screenshot:
    https://i.gyazo.com/2fdbb1c670729fd78f4dfdf3343f14b2.png

    If you look at the winner list and the amount they won, there were a winner at:
    73k, 73k, 75k and 85k
    As only the last 4 lines are shown, I won't know if there are any prior winners.
    Also I'm fairly sure that people are removed from the list randomly, because I'm fairly sure that I saw a 10% winner in the midst of 5% winners in the list for LA server on Tuesday at one time, then when I looked again, no such entry exist (whereas the top of the list, being the oldest entries, are still showing the 250s stuff from before Monday) but I can't be sure.

    But in any case, the rate of winning is definitely dramatically reduced, but it wasn't 0.
I'm talking about Tobirama on the slot machine wheel, Im actually one of the lucky ones who got it.. but i know people trying to get him on the lucky 7 wheel.. In that particular wheel, if someone got him that day.. there is no chance anybody else is able to get him until the next day.
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On 2017-03-30 08:22:56Show this Author Only
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lol when the customer/ player relationship is broken it's obvious that people are gonna be mad for a while...it'll cool down eventually. the thing is after all that's happened mods don't even stand up stright to us to tell us the actual thruth. they barely addressed any reasons relating why we were / are mad
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On 2017-03-30 08:30:20Show this Author Only
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Hey, I think you are right. A good post.
I hope the mods will be able to fix whatever problems, listen to the community, correct their mistakes and make the game better and for it to last. It isn't just about getting compensations and free coupons or whatever, but how the game is running in the long run. :)
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On 2017-03-30 21:28:01Show this Author Only
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Everyone has valid points and Oasis has taken a step in the right direction with posting event early and to some degree being more transparent in what you are getting for your dollar.
I have spent close to $3000 into this game which for most people is a absurd amount but I did it because I truly enjoy the game. I fully understand every ones outrage about things being rigged.

Oasis could fix the rigged thing extremely easy by just clearly saying only one winner per day if it is capped. They would still make money from the people who either didn't see it was won that day or people aiming for other prizes on that wheel.

Which Oasis could just have a box showing who won the big prize that day and if people choose to keep spending which they will cause no one reads the boxs anyway they are 100% being clear that it is capped and anyone that spends after wards it is there own fault for not reading.

Now as for the Youtuber's making people do things I don't believe that for a second. They hold no power over what people do they can suggest things but not force them to do anything.

I'll tell you exactly why I have that opinion I have a pretty well known Youtuber in my group Dripsha and you can ask him your self and he will out right tell you if we think something is wrong we rip into him. I've been on a few of his podcasts I'am ZeroBane from them to be exact.

So you can go back and see how much I have laid into this company over events and * they have done wrong and you c*so see I had that knee * rage that everyone else did and I still do think they are going to have to do something to win us back.

With that being said I decided to put my anger to constructive use and bring the community together so if something bigger happens we can stand together and make a change in how things are done. We fund them and the amount of back charging they have seen in the last few days I'am more then sure woke them up.

We also need to give them time to fix things they cant simply do it over night like a lot of people seem to think. There are hours and days of codeing to do. They have started being more transparent with us by posting there plans and event much earlier this way it gives people time to plan ahead save scrolls or keys or what ever.

We need to give credit where it is due and in time we will build a much better relationship with the company and staff alike if we just give them respect.

I really would like to thank everyone for being civil in your posts it is nice to see we do have adults here that can act like one. This post was last edited by Encounterzero at 2017-3-30 22:02
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On 2017-03-31 01:03:53Show this Author Only
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i just hope they would listen to us more, coz were the ones experiencing these stuff about the game. specially the devs. or am i just dreaming about that.
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On 2017-03-31 01:31:33Show this Author Only
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Good thought. I wi* were as you are suggesting.

Realistically though its pretty much impossible. The game caters to a wide range of players. I know players as young as 14 up til above 30 and not all of them speak English as their primary language. To be fair, you can't expect the maturity and civility of someone like yourself who has 2 kids from say a 14 year old. And language barriers can really trigger people sometimes from misunderstandings over petty things. This is the case with moderators as well.

Remember, there are HK servers as well where a huge variety of cultures play together. In my server for example there are Indonesians, Malaysians, Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Thais, Australians, Vietnamese, Phillipinos etc. Misunderstandings which result in silly name calling happen all the time. Because language proficiency limits many to just saying that.

Its great what you're saying. And I do agree. But i think expectations need to be adjusted as well.
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On 2017-03-31 18:25:56Show this Author Only
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  • _Zamasu_ On 2017-03-30 00:56:53
  • Love how you have no actual comment on what was revealed by an ex employee, the bad publicity from several youtubers. Just more deflection, that shouldn't be surprising though seeing as your Daiske's pet. Happy to see he can be on Discord and not the forums etc.

    Can we expect to fight him in gnw today? He logged off pretty quickly once questioned about recent drama.
Well, that's not the main topic of the thread, is it?
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On 2017-04-01 01:02:55Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-30 08:22:56
  • lol when the customer/ player relationship is broken it's obvious that people are gonna be mad for a while...it'll cool down eventually. the thing is after all that's happened mods don't even stand up stright to us to tell us the actual thruth. they barely addressed any reasons relating why we were / are mad
They may be under gag order to not respond to any of it be cause they represent the company and anything they say be it truth or not can be held against the company.

They are playing things safe by trying to not dig a deeper hole then they are already in.

Clearly they know they got caught with there fingers in the cookie jar but they also know how this community responds to mods.

We tend to react harshly to anything we deem as a defense of the things we don't like.

I'am guilty of doing this a few times my self so I more then understand why it happens, when people feel strongly about a subject they tend to lose sight of their real goal.

This post was last edited by Encounterzero at 2017-4-1 04:37
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On 2017-04-01 05:13:43Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2017-03-29 21:51:27
  • *sigh*
    I said this before and I'll say this again.

    I'm sick and tired of people invoking outside aspects of other people's lives in their disputes. The only thing it will do is drag you and him into a pointless infight that will completely divert our community's serious issue here. If we actually want to bring change, everyone counts and pointless bickering will solve absolutely none of the game's problems.Zero makes a good point here actually, if people weren't so busy not treating him with respect then they'd actually notice his argument about treating people with respect. Now isn't that ironic?

    This post was last edited by Dosu at 2017-3-29 21:56
Agreed. I don't like spelling errors (if they're egregious) but if we judged the contents of something purely on a misplaced letter or period, there are so many books, letters, etc. in this world that would have been thrown in the * as a result.

It's one thing if you type like "i thnk ppl need 2 b gud bc i don't unredstand why ??????" and another if you type like "I think that people need to be good because I dont undrstand why were like this to each other?". I get very annoyed by the former because unless you have a severe character limit (which we all had back in the early 2000s on our cellphones) there's no reason to not spell things out.

But sure, attack the way someone types, it definitely contributes to the discussion at hand. (>_>)
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