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Let’s get in to what people have said they did that is illegal and how it isn't and how you as a player are affected by the TOS that you agreed to play this. When you create an account this website it forces you to agree to the TOS. On Facebook the page it takes you to page that also says that by continuing you are agreeing to the TOS. Now that that jargon is done let’s get down to some real * and let me give my point of view for people who only look at it from one point of view. I would like to say this is not me defending oasis for what they did I am just providing what I think the TOS means and some things people have said.
First and foremost, let’s start with the TOS. Everything from this point on will parts of the TOS that I will explain the best I can in my own words and not the words of a legal lawyer. So this is my opinion and how I read and understand them. If you don't agree that’s doesn't matter to me. This just my opinion and if I can come up with this opinion so can a lawyer. By using or accessing any OASIS game or application ("Service"), you agree to be bound by these Terms. By accessing or using the Service, you agree that you have read, understood, and accepted to be bound by the Terms. OASIS reserves the right, in its sole discretion, modify or revise these Terms at any time, and you agree to be bound by such modifications or revisions. If you do not agree to the Terms, please do not use the Service.

This just means that if you play the game or access one of its services you are bound by the Terms of service. this part is easy. Lets get on to the hard crap that is hard to decipher.
OASIS may also terminate or suspend your access to any Communication Channels at any time, without notice, subject to the rules or Terms of the communication channels.
Engaging in cheating or any other activity that OASIS deems to be in conflict with the spirit of OASIS.

So, the top part is just to reinforce the last quote. This rule in the Term of Service is called a catch all rule. That means if it doesn't follow under on the ones above, it can follow under this one. So, if Oasis feels you are not within the spirt of Oasis they can ban your account so please be careful what you say and how you say it. The next part is one of the single most important things in this Terms of Service.
By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of The People's Republic of China, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms of Service and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and OASIS. Any claim or dispute between you and OASIS that arises in whole or in part from your use of the Service shall be decided exclusively by a court of competent jurisdiction located in Haidian District,Beijing, and you hereby consent to, and waive all defenses of lack of personal jurisdiction and forum non conveniens with respect to venue and jurisdiction in Beijing.

To me this means this game fall under the laws of The People's Republic of China aka Mainland China. I am going to break it down because it easier for me to understand by sentence so I hope to explain this better.
By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of The People's Republic of China, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms of Service and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and OASIS.

This to me means that regardless of where you live, you consent to following under Chinese law when it comes to the game. Wither or not this is enforced would have to be taken to court to even deal with it. This is all I can say on this part because I am not sure where Oasis servers are.

Any claim or dispute between you and OASIS that arises in whole or in part from your use of the Service shall be decided exclusively by a court of competent jurisdiction located in Haidian District,Beijing, and you hereby consent to, and waive all defenses of lack of personal jurisdiction and forum non conveniens with respect to venue and jurisdiction in Beijing.

For anyone but legal people this is crazy jargon come out the eyes and every orifice. I looked up one of words Forum Non Conveniens. This is quoted from wikipedia so if it’s wrong so be it. Generally, a corporation sued in the jurisdiction of its headquarters is not entitled to seek an FNC dismissal. Thus if an American corporation is sued in an area where it only transacts business but not where it has its headquarters, and the court dismisses based upon FNC, the plaintiff may refile the action in the jurisdiction of the corporation’s headquarters.

Lets just take a minute and change Chinese corporation with American corporation. That looks like what is going to happen to Oasis if you sue because their headquarters are in China and they are just doing transact business in the US and EU and wherever they are. So, if you did say sue them and the court dismisses based upon FNC, you would have to file the action in China. Okay let’s get off this topic cause it makes my head hurt as much as the Navy did when I was in.
So let’s talk about what people are talking about as *. Everything that I quote will be from threads and or videos or discussion i have had on discord. No names will be listed because its not about who said it’s about what they said. Let’s get this * storm going.
Some events are rigged to the point that you guys give 1 payout per server per day.
Some events may be rigged until they come out and officially say this I will not comment on if it is rigged or not. This is not illegal to do and they never once said in any event that you c*ways get that ninja. They say you have the chance to get that ninja. They do not have to say only one person has a chance to get that ninja a day. It is *my to do but it’s it not required to say. So, *my does not mean *.
giving coupons and ninjas to mods/Game liasons

This is actually a common practice employed by Microsoft. I play tested for them and they gave me products and no real money. This game has the right to pay their roles or whatever they call it how they want. It’s not illegal and people just need to get over it and deal with it. Its *my but is not anything illegal.
#unbanaris
I would just like to say this and even it was a joke, which I assume it was. He attempted to extort them for a new account, all his money he had paid as well as 200k coupons. He said and I quote And if you want me to delete the video, and stop talking about, I want to start on a new server. With all the salary and money I have topped up in coupons on that server. Under a new name, so people won't know it's me. And I want a additional 2000,000 coupons. I will stop posting on the forums. I will stop streaming, stop making videos etc. Because if you want me to sell these people out. It has to be a lot, and i can't use the same account and name, or I will get bombarded with hate.
This is not something to joke around. I can understand it’s a joke but a company my not take it as a joke.
Person A knows everything.
I would like to say this because of recent youtubers and what not. Unless a lawyer tells you how to approach Oasis in a lawsuit situation do not listen. Unless they are a lawyer and has reviewed the case do not believe everything you hear.
I think that’s about it for me. Also for anyone who thinks I work for Oasis you are wrong. Just to make sure this doesn't get out of hand. These are my views and my responses and no one else’s. This is my take on how I read the TOS and is not an official legal representation of it. You cannot use this to fight Oasis or anyone else for that matter because I am not a lawyer and have no real knowledge on how laws work. I am just pointing out what I understand, what I think it means to me and to you. I am just a simple guy living that simple life.
This post was last edited by AssumedParasite at 2017-3-28 23:37 This post was last edited by AssumedParasite at 2017-3-28 23:52
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On 2017-03-28 23:37:30Show this Author Only
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Pretty hard work to excuse Oasis from what they have been doing and keep doing. Nice job nontheless. I just dont give a crap about this game. My server just died with this. Next game please.
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On 2017-03-28 23:42:06Show this Author Only
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Preach ap, let em know wassup xD
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On 2017-03-28 23:47:15Show this Author Only
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pays real money then gamble, if they don't get what they want they complain and ask for a refund. pure *ity if you ask me.
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On 2017-03-28 23:50:56Show this Author Only
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No no, you do not understand mr. 113

From what I can see this post is NOT about excusing Oasis, it's about making people aware of legal stuffs and other scary scary therms.

It's actually a very good post, and a warning for everyone who takes his time to read it. Whenever you get on the legal grounds, do not trust anyone but a lawyer.
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On 2017-03-28 23:56:19Show this Author Only
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lol.....................http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=image&aid=22688&size=300x300&key=c94bacc94bf11a0c&nocache=yes&type=fixnone
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On 2017-03-29 00:07:03Show this Author Only
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  • Yepp On 2017-03-28 23:56:19
  • lol.....................http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=image&aid=22688&size=300x300&key=c94bacc94bf11a0c&nocache=yes&type=fixnone
I expected people to not read it. So its cool. I hope you have a good day. I wanted to * off some steam :D
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On 2017-03-29 00:09:20Show this Author Only
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Here's the thing, ToS dont mean anything, if they were doing it before implementing it, all the more reason why, they are in trouble.
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On 2017-03-29 00:19:57Show this Author Only
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  • deathspades On 2017-03-28 23:42:06
  • Preach ap, let em know wassup xD
0 threads, 3 posts...clearly daiske
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On 2017-03-29 00:20:01Show this Author Only
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TOS has been in the game since it was released to the public
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On 2017-03-29 00:27:29Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2017-03-29 00:19:57
  • 0 threads, 3 posts...clearly daiske
Nah just never go on forums only came on because I wanted to read ap's
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On 2017-03-29 00:29:53Show this Author Only
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Thanks for the time it took you to write all this !

We live in a society and world in general were everyone is protesting ,complaining for a good cause of course but the biggest problem we are faced against is poor education in masses.
Overwelming feelings , riots, revolution and at the end ppl don't look around to filter , calm down and see things from a different perspective !

Once you realise that this game , together with its economy , social aspect ect is a miniature of the world we live in , you realise that its futile to complain about a rigged event , or some *my practises and you just keep your energy for some serious changes that have to come in RL !
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On 2017-03-29 01:06:11Show this Author Only
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Where is the ToS located? And link? The only thing talking about ToS that i find is only this thread.
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On 2017-03-29 01:09:43Show this Author Only
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Bottom on almost all the sites webpages as well at the bottom of the Facebook client. Also here is the link http://www.oasgames.com/TermsofService(EN).html copy and paste it or else it doesn't work lol. This post was last edited by AssumedParasite at 2017-3-29 01:10
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On 2017-03-29 01:17:45Show this Author Only
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So... Will they comply with China law regarding China government forcing games to display item drops from loot boxes?
Online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services that can be drawn/forge on the official website or a dedicated draw probability webpage of the game. The information on draw probability shall be true and effective.Since their ToS goes to the point to:

By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of The People's Republic of China, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms of Service and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and OASIS

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On 2017-03-29 01:21:00Show this Author Only
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  • So... Will they comply with China law regarding China government forcing games to display item drops from loot boxes?
    Online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services that can be drawn/forge on the official website or a dedicated draw probability webpage of the game. The information on draw probability shall be true and effective.Since their ToS goes to the point to:

    By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of The People's Republic of China, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms of Service and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and OASIS

my opinion is that yes they would have to but I am not a lawyer so I can not say with 100% accuracy.
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On 2017-03-29 01:21:13Show this Author Only
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Agree with everything you said regarding the legal aspect of the situation.

Although, no mention of the rigged poll?
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On 2017-03-29 01:23:36Show this Author Only
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  • Watanuki13 On 2017-03-29 01:21:13
  • Agree with everything you said regarding the legal aspect of the situation.

    Although, no mention of the rigged poll?
Regarding rigged poll. OH please, i complained, others complained, everyone knew that was a sham, everything is planned, and every poll is created to give the illusion we THE players can actually change anything.

Regarding the new China law, it enters in active mode 1 May. I hope they follow it, since apparently we are following China law here by playing this game.
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On 2017-03-29 01:31:00Show this Author Only
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  • Watanuki13 On 2017-03-29 01:21:13
  • Agree with everything you said regarding the legal aspect of the situation.

    Although, no mention of the rigged poll?
The polls are not rigged they are there to see if the community wants said update now and not later on in the development cycle so they can focus on other things. People talk about the Sage one a lot but Oasis memeber said it will going to be implementing it later instead of now due to people not wanting it currently.
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On 2017-03-29 01:35:42Show this Author Only
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  • AssumedParasite On 2017-03-29 01:31:00
  • The polls are not rigged they are there to see if the community wants said update now and not later on in the development cycle so they can focus on other things. People talk about the Sage one a lot but Oasis memeber said it will going to be implementing it later instead of now due to people not wanting it currently.
Oh it's a sham. People complain about other things; if you want to give a real choice, put multiple options polls, not one poll with yes or no, and be transparent about the poll theme selection; asking for emails and not using the forum where we all can see it's trolling. Everyone can see that, i hope.

And last but not least: By reading the ToS paragraph about law implmentation, i'm pretty sure they have to follow China law:

By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of The People's Republic of China, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms of Service and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and OASIS. Any claim or dispute between you and OASIS that arises in whole or in part from your use of the Service shall be decided exclusively by a court of competent jurisdiction located in Haidian District,Beijing, and you hereby consent to, and waive all defenses of lack of personal jurisdiction and forum non conveniens with respect to venue and jurisdiction in Beijing.
Also here's the link for the new law: Notice of the Ministry of Culture on Regulating the Operation of Online Game Operations This post was last edited by 390***@uf16 at 2017-3-29 01:37
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