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- Registered: 2017-07-24
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1＃ Go ToOk people lets be real and adults here. Oasis is running this game like a casino runs yet millions of people still play in them knowing the odds are stacked in the houses favor this is just common knowledge and is accepted how is this any different? I completly undrstand that logicly the odds were stacked against us from the start but as a gamer on a emotional level the pure black and white proof that we don't matter at all pisses me off to no end. Oasis staff if you some how manage to read this I will continue to support this game because I truely do belive this game is worth supporting and want to see it grow into what I play on other servers. Fellow players I 100% understand why your outraged and despritly trying to understand and deal with being slapped in the face by the company that you drop so much money into but lets be realistic with the demands and cut the mods some slack here. They are the middle man in this fight and caught in the crossfire of gamers and devs so callign for a full staff reboot will only possibly accomplish one of two things.
1. They get new staff that could be better at listening to us and give us what we ask for.
2. We get a worse staff that tells us to piss off.
Now the demanding one ninja or another super rare is just moronic cause thats not going to happen period. The best they can do is give us ingame things like scrolls or possibly a free month of a medal or something realistic. Right now they have been blind sided and are in panic mode so do not expect this to be a quick fix or process. This is going to take a little time and we as players have a choice to make and both are 100% right cause each person is right in choosing if its in their best intrest to stay or go. I'am choosing to stay and ride this out for what I know the future of this game holds but I c*so see and fully understand why people are and will quit and I wish them the best of luck. So I ask that everyone put the hunt on hold till we get a response from Oasis don't abandon your groups and the friends you have made in the game on a knee * reaction and split second choice that you may not get to come back from cause your ban. I'am going to adress this now before some one comments on this. I am in no way shape or form defending the company or have any ties to them. I'am a gamer and have been one for almost 30 years and have seen bigger compaines do worse EA and a whole other list of big triple A companies tell the players to piss off and we still keep buying games from them just look at the Call Of Duty series.
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I really do love playing this game and I will continue to. I'am offering you Oasis to do PR for you on the forums and in game. I really do want this game to keep going and not die off over what every other game company has done. For the last few weeks I've been watching the players drop from my servers and I really don't want to have another ghost server situation again. -
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I'am actually really happy that I'am not getting flamed for this post like I was expecting to be which I'am sure that's still coming. Oasis coming out and telling us there plans will really help them out right now and giving a eta would help more so people have time to plan for events and such like f2p players. They have a really rare chance here to make a comeback and regain the faith of the community again by working with it. I've been on a number of youtube podcasts and criticized Oasis for how they have handled events and such in the past but I think what happened with this * storm was really a blind side for both the community and the devs alike. We as gamers and them as devs really need to see the forest instead of just the trees here. This has given the devs a prime opportunity to improve relations with the community. We want the content right now cause of how quickly we burn thru it so the game doesn't get stale. If they want to do something to make people happy give more events that make us feel it's worth our money. That recharge wheel with all the cupons on it was by far the hands down best wheel they have had. I spend on average $200 to $400 a month on this game which is insane but i really do love playing it. -
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I remember when I first started playing around September of last year ruffly the game was buggy and support was iffy at best but we had such a huge community that has already shrank a ton and not much else has changed. They really need to be more active with the community to keep people hyped for future updates cause playing in Taiwan and Germany like I've been and starting from zero on there and seeing what they have events and ninja wise really has reignited my interest in the game. This is where Oasis has fell short with they community not showing people anything to look forward to and the game and the community has suffered for that. People are not going to willingly go and play the other versions of this to see what is coming up and most definitely not bother if they are not told in advance so they can look into it. There is a simple fix to 90% of the communities out rage right now and that's just come out and show us what we have to look forward to and in a show of good faith on next months update release something like the edo treasure that we have been hearing about coming.(If its done being translated) -
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- suboxone On 2017-03-26 23:53:26
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The problem with what the OP said is that at least casinos let everyone know the odds for their machines and games. If you ask someone behind a roulette table, they will tell you the odds and what is your best odd, etc. The only game with the best odds (black jack) and maybe poker, can easily be found online whereas you're not suppose to ask for help when playing card games.
The fact the mods/devs in this company kept expressing there is no "real" set amount of seals for a certain ninja or "real" odds for wheel events, etc. was a huge LIE. Then they would even say they're not allowed to give out the odds or % drop rate for things because it would reveal too much info about their source code.... C'mon guys, we're not *ed. We all knew pain ninjas were 400+, we all knew kage ninjas were 900+, but yet they claimed people could get it before then.
It almost like throwing dog * in someones face and telling them it smells good.
Really they are telling the truth. Say you want sage naruto there is no set number of scrolls that you will pull him. They have a ruff estimate on how much you could spend to have a chance at getting him. I got my sage in the first 20 pulls I did where as I know someone who has done over 300 and still not got him. So really your chances of pulling him just increase by increments of spending. The rates have to adjust on the fly based on who you have already pulled. say you have 4 options to win from. you spend $10 and get option one then you spend another $10 and because you got option one the percentage of pulling one of the other 3 has just increased but unless option 1 is eliminated all together you could still pull option 1 again. So they really can not state a exact number. -
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I cant remember where exactly but someone posted that the china rules still apply internationally due to them being based out of china.How true that is I couldn't even begin to say but I keep seeing how people are turning this into a item grab and that is sad. People making absurd demands for compensation I understand people are pissed. Instead of trying to get something from the company to shut up till the next issue comes up why not try and help avoid the next situation before it even comes up? Maybe I'am just from a different mindset of gaming but we as players have to accept some amount of blame for this * too.We are the ones that kept feeding the system in hopes we might get one thing or another when countless other people have been saying for months this that and the other thing was rigged. We chose to ignore them and keep feeding the machine. They are a company and they have to make a profit from what is considered a free to play game. The only real thing that everyone on both side of the its rigged argument can agree on is they need to communicate with the people better and more clearly. Knowing now what everyone thinks they do about the system does it make the game any less fun for you? Did they make the game not worth supporting to make it better? Personally nothing has changed for me cause if you have come solely for the game play element no wonder you want to quit. I came to play a game and enjoy the company of my fellow group mates and in the process of that if it cost me a few extra bucks I don't care cause to me it's equal to what I would have spent setting in a bar having a few drinks with friends. The game being worth it is solely one personas opinion and that will change dramatically from person to person. I just hope this builds a better communication lines between the community and the devs alike. -
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- On 2017-03-27 04:57:36
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Coming from someone who doesn't mind writing walls of text, or reading them, could you think about adding spaces in between paragraphs? It makes them easier to read. xP
That being said, for the most part I agree with you, albeit what oasis is doing... is annoying... it is still a business, a lot of the things that came to light were nothing new to a f2p model, many people suspected this without streams/Aristeaus doing this. - Some people are even making him out to be a martyr, they are in their 'right' to do so, but yea two wrongs don't make a right... if he signed a NDA when he agreed to his position, I can see him being in a bit of legal trouble.
Speaking of aris, apparently what got him banned, wasn't the fact that he divulged their business practices, but because he tried to blackmail them.
Either way this is a storm that isn't going away, people are going to remember this/in all likely hood leave the game... ergo I for one do not agree with how arist went about with this, I understand he felt like he wasn't being listened too, but regardless I feel he essentially went from going to mom, to dad in an attempt to get what he/others wanted. - Yes the model *s, but it is the f2p model that is at play here, it isn't just oasis, they are trying to keep 'content' for the whales, they have released certain things in time that has helped free players along (medium threads in SA/Monthly event).... but regardless paying players will ALWAYS have a leg up over free players, they are a BUSINESS, without money (no matter how greedy they are being) they can NOT sustain the servers/keep updates coming.
Sorry for the grammer crap but kinda in a hurry with 2 kids. I completely agree with you. Aristiues screwed his credibly when showed what his price tag to throw us under the bus.(his words not mine) Also FG and Parasite are right in if they do set a cap it should be clearly posted as such. The real question we need to ask is where do we go from here knowing what we do now? -
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- FG3000 On 2017-03-27 04:36:08
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I'm ok with stacked odds and bad RNG. What I'm not ok with is capping certain jackpot ninjas to only drop once per day per server.
Is this true or not? They need to come out and say its NOT true because this is a big issue. And if it IS true...then let players know ahead of time so they dont re-charge like crazy trying to get things to drop.
I'am happy you chimed in on this FG. You and Parasite are right about the cap that it needs to be clearly post that its capped. They cant give out to much info into how the game is run or programmed but they can tell us if something is a limited thing or not. Now for the sake of argument here say they did come out and say yes it was capped all along. How would you handle that info and what suggestions would you make to improve the communications to the community of things like this? -
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- 超 On 2017-03-27 05:55:48
- there are certain laws in place in europe about this, probably the usa too, we're just asking for transparency, oasis can't just do what they feel like and go unpunished
What would you suggest they do to correct these issues? What would they have to do to make things right with the players? -
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- On 2017-03-27 06:09:50
- There really should be, but sadly there isn't, the laws of online "gambling" is a lot more relaxed in the us... which is truly annoying, it is what allow business's to be as greedy as possible, which is what most F2P games do these days sadly. - Oasis isn't alone in this practice, the f2p model as a whole needs to change, but alas I can't see that happening, unless people speak with their money, and I do believe this will happen thanks to Arist falling on the knife so to speak, but I still disagree with how he did it.
He did a good thing bring this to light and getting the devs more in touch with the community. Now with that being said he really screwed the pooch when he showed his price tag to sell us out and ask for insane amounts to shut up. -
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- NoobityBoobity On 2017-03-27 06:17:13
- Honestly, the "give me the sussano' sasuke and itachi" is just a joke imo. I don't expect either of them at all lol.
IF and this is a big if they decide to "compensate" us for things I really do think people have just lost there * minds and do for a gimmie free * grab. Alot of people are more focused on the rng aspect and totally missing all the other issues. Honestly I really do wish a mod would chime in on this thread but right now they just don't know how to respond. -
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Honestly unless they come out and admit they screwed up they really have nothing to compensate for. They are in a *ed if you do *ed if you don't position. They admit they did wrong there going to be hell to pay they don't admit anything they are screwed. What they need to do is take the third option. The third option is coming out with clear info a a eta on what they have planed. The statement hey gave didn't address any of the issues people are having period. FG3000 stated this in his second part video. -
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