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On 2017-03-26 11:37:21Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Here's one thing that I'm still trying to figure out.

Can someone please explain to me why they can't change their plans concerning cross-server Sage World? What's so bad about changing their plans?

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On 2017-03-26 11:55:21Show this Author Only
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Because they want to keep opening new servers and only do very few merges.
w/o Xserver sage, soon enough the vast majority of server will be without sage and that's not good for the business model. With Xserver sage, they can sustain the game status quo for a bit longer with minimal actual work.
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On 2017-03-26 12:04:51Show this Author Only
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I see... but I think I didn't phrase this quite correctly.

From what I understood from Aristeaus's video, they planned on implementing cross server sage world and then did the poll, and then when it was shot down they decided to do it anyway because they planned it before. He also said that for some reason they couldn't cancel stuff.

What's so wrong with cancelling stuff or changing that plan? If I've scheduled out my day and something goes wrong, there's nothing wrong with changing my schedule.

Does that still mean that they just don't want to work then? Looking back, I'm not sure if the answer changed at all...
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On 2017-03-26 12:16:58Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2017-03-26 12:04:51
  • I see... but I think I didn't phrase this quite correctly.

    From what I understood from Aristeaus's video, they planned on implementing cross server sage world and then did the poll, and then when it was shot down they decided to do it anyway because they planned it before. He also said that for some reason they couldn't cancel stuff.

    What's so wrong with cancelling stuff or changing that plan? If I've scheduled out my day and something goes wrong, there's nothing wrong with changing my schedule.

    Does that still mean that they just don't want to work then? Looking back, I'm not sure if the answer changed at all...
Ever since the first poll, I've had the su*ion, which is now confirmed, that the poll are just there to placate us and doesn't actually mean anything (I've a post of that somewhere in the poll thread I think)

It works like this:
They have something they already planned to implement
They expect us to like it
They make a poll for it
And when we "support" it and they release it, they can claim that they listened to us to make us "happy".

That plan obviously didn't quite work and backfired, but between the planned feature release versus a something that was potentially never intended to be cared about and mere a "crowd control" tool, which do you think they would abandon?

It is said that they plan to delay it, which once again is probably done to placate us. Obviously we would be very angry if the very thing we shot down was implemented a week later. But in two month, when the poll becomes a distant memory, they can put it in much safer with much less resistance. And they c*so claim that "back then player didn't want this, but now things have changed blah blah and thus etc etc" and say that they are not going against our wishes, just that our opinion are no longer "current" and thus no longer "valid"

Somehow, I feel that a lot of times, the company focus far more on social engineering and psychological tricks than they do actual computer engineering and game design.
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On 2017-03-26 12:18:26Show this Author Only
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Cause it's all about opening new servers and only caring about new players joining (or spending) instead of attempting to keep the current players.
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On 2017-03-26 12:21:42Show this Author Only
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  • Dosu On 2017-03-26 12:04:51
  • I see... but I think I didn't phrase this quite correctly.

    From what I understood from Aristeaus's video, they planned on implementing cross server sage world and then did the poll, and then when it was shot down they decided to do it anyway because they planned it before. He also said that for some reason they couldn't cancel stuff.

    What's so wrong with cancelling stuff or changing that plan? If I've scheduled out my day and something goes wrong, there's nothing wrong with changing my schedule.

    Does that still mean that they just don't want to work then? Looking back, I'm not sure if the answer changed at all...
Let me give you an example...on my server there are only 2 players that are full p2w crazy.and they stopped topping up because...well because they're 13k+ power over anyone else, oasis would love to get them spending again, one solution would be server merge, but we all know they merge once every 2 weeks, and they merge less servers than they create, so mathematically it would take forever and still not merge us, so they came up with the solution 2, wich is to create a reason for them to top up again, and thus the sage corsserver appeared
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On 2017-03-26 12:48:50Show this Author Only
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I can relate to this. When they opened a thread about players who want merge. I posted that our server don't want merge becoz where doing fine by ourselves. But instead they merge us with 2 servers later servers th* that are more powerful. What happen some of our original server player just quit becoz they can't keep up with competition. Now my group full of dummy accounts of other server that are not really competing in gnw they just online and afk. Sometimes they ask help in TI And SA or wanted but when it comes to gnw they just afk and didn't join. The sad part is I tried to tell oasis that our server are fine. We can kill 9tails we can do sage and other events. They open a thread discussion about server merges and i posted there saying don't include our server coz we're doing fine, instead they still merge us. It's like they want us to suggest and say our opinion but it's not gonna make any differences at all. I top up too to stay in the game and compete but I feel for my other group mates who quit.
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On 2017-03-26 13:42:40Show this Author Only
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cuz if you fcked up the code the game will be down for a fkin week and we cant play
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On 2017-03-26 13:44:31Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-03-26 13:42:40
  • cuz if you fcked up the code the game will be down for a fkin week and we cant play
screw the code, they fcked us up and over. like now naruto online is just the new * hub
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On 2017-03-26 13:46:25Show this Author Only
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  • NoobityBoobity On 2017-03-26 13:44:31
  • screw the code, they fcked us up and over. like now naruto online is just the new * hub
That would explain why oasis.com is now a dating site...the company knows that having them fcking us over is not right, and they try to * us up with other people so they can fck us up too, OAS IS A PIMP :>D
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On 2017-03-26 13:50:45Show this Author Only
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they need to start addressing the issue now though. just not ignore us. we need to have a real discussion about the issues in game. a real discussion with mods and devs and not just some platonic copy paste that won't change anything. Oasis has 2 roads right now, either apologize and change things or continue ignoring us and mess things up even more.
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On 2017-03-26 14:12:04Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2017-03-26 13:46:25
  • That would explain why oasis.com is now a dating site...the company knows that having them fcking us over is not right, and they try to * us up with other people so they can fck us up too, OAS IS A PIMP :>D
A dirt nasty pile o' * pimp
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On 2017-03-26 17:25:45Show this Author Only
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Tencent Is the developer. They cant change Cross Sage Battle, as its a major feature, without a go ahead from Tencent. However this would cause problems with the games programming after the feature was added in China. Sadly theres nothing that can be done, good or bad
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On 2017-03-26 21:49:28Show this Author Only
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You do have to understand that Oasis is only a publisher. A publisher is only allowed to do, what developers allow them to do.

The point of polls system is only to finding out priority in which things will be added into the game. If something is met with really negative feedback it also gives them time to actually discuss things with the developer. That being said in F2P MMO region, it's very rare for developers to give any freedom to the publisher.
Though it does seem they already have more permissions than most publishers do, so I guess it's not that bad.
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