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1＃ Go ToCan some one point me in the right direction of the Damage reduction skill, does it reduce all damage received, does it improve the damage evaition like Suigetsu and Konan or? i would love a real understanding of this stat, thank you for you time. -
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- Rickard.henriks On 2017-03-15 01:54:15
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It does lower damage done to ONESELF , so under chaos you do a surten damage and it lowers by damage reduction.
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no that is wrong it reduces all dmg, just the translation is a bit wonky
well i should say it should reduce all dmg. the problem is you need so much of it to do something that its not worth it to stack it -
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- Rickard.henriks On 2017-03-15 01:54:15
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It does lower damage done to ONESELF , so under chaos you do a surten damage and it lowers by damage reduction.
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Consider that you CANT do damage to ONESELF even if you are chaoed, this is obviously wrong.
Well... i guess there is clone stabbing the summoner, but I don't think even that counts.
As for why have it when there is def/res, well, damage reduction is "weaker" than def at defending tai damage and "weaker" than res against nin, but it is useful against both.
Some char that have taunt might need to pile more tai, some char that spawns shield based on res would prefer res, but for other chars, perhaps it is better to have a more well rounded defense in the form of damage reduction. Since you can't have every stat on everything thing, this offers another choice between the def or res extremes. -
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- Rickard.henriks On 2017-03-15 03:21:37
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Still thats what the desc
ription says and what you say is pulled from? some dark place iguess ^^
You do a surten damage to yourself (team) when you are chaosed and hit them while chaosed.
For one, stats are per ninja, therefore if you take oneself in the literal sense, it would not be to your team, but only to "oneself", which is mostly impossible (there is hidan so...)
For another, people have conducted tests as to whether damage reduction have any effect (when enemies hit you), and the tests have shown that it does in fact reduce damage taken. Granted, I can't find any tests conducted on our side at the moment(thou I believe I have seen one or two people mention doing them 1-2 month ago), but there are a lot of them in the CN version that can be found with a quick search.
PS: As it turns out, it is not a translation problem. The wording is equally confusing in Chinese, which is why so many people conducted the tests.
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-03-15 03:34:01
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For one, stats are per ninja, therefore if you take oneself in the literal sense, it would not be to your team, but only to "oneself", which is mostly impossible (there is hidan so...)
For another, people have conducted tests as to whether damage reduction have any effect (when enemies hit you), and the tests have shown that it does in fact reduce damage taken. Granted, I can't find any tests conducted on our side at the moment(thou I believe I have seen one or two people mention doing them 1-2 month ago), but there are a lot of them in the CN version that can be found with a quick search.
PS: As it turns out, it is not a translation problem. The wording is equally confusing in Chinese, which is why so many people conducted the tests.
This post was last edited by 117***@google at 2017-3-15 03:35
ur correct, i did some testing with it a few months ago myself on the NA version.
damage reduction reduces nin and tai damage u take.
the amount of damage reduced is roughly 33% per point compared to defense and resistance
i tested with lvl 7 gold 8 gates rune for all 3. i did not test to see if there are diminishing returns on any of the stats. i had ~6100 base defense/resistance and ~1000 ba se damage reduction before the runes -
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- Syldor On 2017-03-15 02:06:09
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no that is wrong it reduces all dmg, just the translation is a bit wonky
well i should say it should reduce all dmg. the problem is you need so much of it to do something that its not worth it to stack it
"decide to make stamina damage to target" got a laugh out of me when I first saw it. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-03-15 03:04:52
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Consider that you CANT do damage to ONESELF even if you are chaoed, this is obviously wrong.
Well... i guess there is clone stabbing the summoner, but I don't think even that counts.
As for why have it when there is def/res, well, damage reduction is "weaker" than def at defending tai damage and "weaker" than res against nin, but it is useful against both.
Some char that have taunt might need to pile more tai, some char that spawns shield based on res would prefer res, but for other chars, perhaps it is better to have a more well rounded defense in the form of damage reduction. Since you can't have every stat on everything thing, this offers another choice between the def or res extremes.
That's right.
base on other game i played they do have 1 rune for both defense types but in lower stats.
Many ninjas in this game does both damage type i.e. Sage Naruto Resenshuriken does nin and tai.
The counterpart of it that you can put *ion to deal more damage. I believe it goes ((Enemy's def - Your *ion%)) - flat *ion = damage you deal. But I think there is only flat *ion in this game. -
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