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On 2017-03-08 07:18:54Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Okay OASIS, you say you actually take note of how certain events have effected the game and the players and how you're always doing your best to make the game enjoyable for ALL players? Well, let me give you a brief review on how the changes in the past month or so have affected my server, with quotes from fellow players on my server.

CHANGES

Arena:

*before the cross server*

Player 1: Hi, can someone que in the arena please? I only need one win for a challenge
Player 2: Sure, queing now
Player 3: It's so * actually having to ask people to que in arena to get fights

*after the cross server*

Player 1: Yes! The arena is finally cross servered, no more queing for 20 minutes for one fight
*5 seconds later*
Player 1: What?! Susano Sasuke, Susano Itachi, Ay, Midnight Blade?! The guy is from S20?! I can't beat this!

Matsuri:

*before cross server*

Player 1: Oh my god, it's so hard to find a fight in Matsuri with how inactive the server is, I should have started it sooner, now there's no one to fight.

*after cross server*

Player 1: Finally Matsuri is cross servered now, I can actually have a fight
*5 seconds later*
Player 1: Are you kidding? Sage Naruto, Hashirama, Tobirama, Fire Main? 75k BP S10?! I don't stand a chance in Matsuri anymore...

Server merge:

*before merge*

Player 1: Seriously? Another event cancelled due to lack of players? Guys, let's get some alts thrown in so the event actually takes place. We need a merge quick!

*after merge*

Player 1: Yes! Server has merged, let's see who's in the server now...S-***, WHAT?! 65k BP, how is this fair?! We can't fight these guys...let me check the other servers...the next neighbouring server has an average of 45k BP?! That's the same as ours! why didn't we merge with them?
Player 2: Why did our server merge with yours? Our highest has 65k BP, we were an active server anyway, we didn't need this.

CONCLUSION

Great that we can actually participate in these events but, alas, it was too good to be true, older servers get easier fights for easier rewards, new servers who are just starting out quit because they can't make any progress due to being put up against these servers. Yes, the cross server was needed but players from S175 (Mine) against players with 65K BP from S35?! Funny thing is, those players actually find this really unfair as well! Respect to those who have actually refresh to lose on purpose in good sportsmanship.

The cross server gap needs to be not too small so it takes 20 minutes to find a fight but not too big so players face of against older servers in which they stand no chance at all.
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On 2017-03-08 08:00:58Show this Author Only
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1. There are no players on s10 with power even close to 75k.

2. The timing of Arena and Matsuri is key in being able to adequately do them without getting unfairly matched. It works for Matsuri, not totally so much with Arena.

3. Merge has been requested for the purpose of inciting competition between player bases. The reason that servers are getting merged together is that they aren't getting to opportunity for intra-server events (Sage and convoy/plunder). I understand the flaws in the merging system and I see this type of comment about merges way too often, but the pros and cons of a merged server has to be considered along with the pros and cons of an un-merged server.

Quite often, as you have mentioned, actions are taken by management that aren't of the consensus of the population, but as management, those decisions are their discretion. Often times, there are other motivations that promote a decision, which may or may not involve feedback from those reporting to management.

Overall, there are other games out there that take action without consulting their player-base at all. The fact that OSAGames isn't that type of game and allows feedback from its players proves that they are open to criticism and suggestions.

Peace! :victory:
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On 2017-03-08 10:58:34Show this Author Only
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Cross server arena isn't an issue. Requiring players to reach 6 paths at least once in a 0 sum game, on an un-even battleground is a problem. The vast majority of players who have not reached 6 paths before 2.0 has no chance of ever reaching it for many months. Removing point loss for people who never reached 6 paths before would solve this issue effectively.

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Cross server matsuri isn't an issue. The matchmaking mechanism is in need of work. Currently, only one player need to be in the que for 60s to have random matches. Requiring both players to be in que for 60s for random matchmaking would fix the frustrating issues of meeting someone 30k+ pow higher the moment you press fight.

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The choice of server mergers is a serious issue.

A bunch of servers that got merged does not really need it. Their events barely run, but still do run even before the merger. When players in these servers become cannon fodders post merger, ofcourse they won't be happy. They are worse off than before the merger.

Many servers that desperately need mergers are not being merged. There are servers like mine, who has no sage/gnw/plunder for well over a month. I can count on one hand how many active players remain in this graveyard. Yet, time after time, my server did not get merged.

Players are not satisfied with the merger process because too many servers that need mergers do not get merged; while not every server that did get merged even need one in the first place. Actually merging completely dead servers, instead of sending semi-active ones as fodder to older servers would make players that much happier.
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On 2017-03-08 11:52:59Show this Author Only
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first of all the root of all these problems is the fact that they forcibly *ter the population by opening servers everyday. i really dont understand why that's necessary. so obviously if we're all *tered they think hey now we need to merge them but the problem again is 7/10 the merge isn't done right and players lose interest.

maybe oasis does take our feedback into account and maybe they dont ..who knows really. All we know for sure is that flash based browser games have a very high competition. let's also not forget that flash in itself is dying and thirdly, oasis have had an agenda from the start, either you cry complain or praise them that agenda will be carried out for their own sake regardless of if you're ok with it.
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On 2017-03-08 12:07:12Show this Author Only
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more like:
Player 1: Yes! The arena is finally cross servered, no more queing for 20 minutes for one fight
*40 minutes later*
Player 1: WTF oasis?
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On 2017-03-08 13:39:00Show this Author Only
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im in s2 more than 50k power and still cant match a fight in arena!== try to matching 3h and cant get a fight :L
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On 2017-03-08 13:55:51Show this Author Only
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Summary: You can't please everyone. or Everyone can't be pleased. ;P
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On 2017-03-08 14:36:56Show this Author Only
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To be fair, all initial complains were solved.

You complained no matches in Arena, now they matched you. You complained hard to find matches in Matsuri, they allowed matching with cross server. You complained Sage World cancelled, they merged you and Sage World proceeded.

After the problems they initially solved, yes it did produce new problems. But now you're just complaining about the new problems, which really, its a step by step ever growing process, and always going to happen. So accept it, and stop complaining, it does absolutely nothing to the community.
If you want, give suggestions and ideas, not just complaints. Like what you did with your 1 liner suggestion at the end. Give detailed suggestions like you can give such a detailed complaint.
This post was last edited by JeremyKohBS at 2017-3-8 06:39
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On 2017-03-08 16:27:38Show this Author Only
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Bah its so easy to fix Matsuri..just match based on power not on level. Devs are literally blind if they dont get it.
And Arena...welp arena is fine. You get matched with similar rank. It's similar to elo ratings in Dota, LoL and other competetive games.
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On 2017-03-08 18:04:53Show this Author Only
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In Matsuri after i win 1 match , i always match with the players above 55k power i got 46k, they got susano brothers and i only watch them how easily can defeat my ultimate team so the way the match making works to be honest ridiculous but arena is ok no complains about that and yea merged servers seem to be having problems with the players have high power, i just want to point out that OAS doing only one thing and they manage to do that wrong , we not asking them to calculate math problems, we just want them to find a better algorithm to match the equal powered players in matsuri and equal powered merged serves, simple is that no need to be a rocket scientist to do these .... This post was last edited by Darksider226 at 2017-3-8 18:06
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On 2017-03-08 21:02:20Show this Author Only
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Okay, first of all, this ISN'T a post to complain, it's just a post I thought I'd make to allow players to add their reviews of what these events have done for them and their server, there's 100's of different post COMPLAINING about these things so obviously OASIS won't take their time to go through them all, so I thought, why not put all of the opinion and views into one post :). Secondly, I over exaggerated with the BP and servers, I just pick a random server and random BP to put a point across that the newer servers that have cross server, are being put up against older more experienced servers with more BP than them. So don't flame me for what I put, this is a post for opinions and reviews, not for insults or disrespecting other people's thoughts.
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On 2017-03-08 22:59:43Show this Author Only
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My review about it:
A lot of the merged servers ask for merge already,because they merged servers with huge power gap,and people left the game in masses.As long as they merge like this,the servers will just die again in 2 weeks max.S56 and S72 in LA region is a great example of a merge,that killed the server even more.
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