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  • Registered: 2017-07-24
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On 2017-03-04 02:12:20Show All Posts
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@4 personally I'm using damage reduction over def, and given that I plan to use init and crit, I can't have both. I also have combo for when that is "needed" to make a ninja trigger with normal hits. Of the 5 listed, def is probably the least useful. There have been mixed test results according to different people on the effect of damage reduction vs def. Direct comparison usually find them similar, but that makes damage reduction better because it also applies to nin damage.PS: control actually works. I only have one because it's a red, but it's always amusing when you shrug off their CC..... they rage so hard.

@6 maxing nin/tai pen is a questionable choice. It does give you power, which is good for qualifying for TI(you need 32k for the awesome one), but it doesn't help you in battle(according to test people have ran). In theory, masuri is supposed to match based on power once you hit 85, we all know the match making is shaky at best, but still, I'd like to MINIMIZE my power while having the most fighting strength possible. So those two are questionable upgrades (by the same token, I'm not equipping my injury runes, luckily those you can equip for the power boost for TI qualification and then un-equip when not needed)

@11 Try always do difficult, and for both SA, 2 person team (of similar level) is easier than one. In Hidan SA, only one person need to carry CC to stop the OP skills while the other can focus on damage, which makes it go much faster. In Hanzo, 2 person have lower combo per person requirement for stage 2&3, which is the most difficult part for most people. (combo requirement is 1>3>2). So if you have trouble doing difficult, get a tag team, don't waste chance on lower difficulty unless you can't find a partner and can't solo no matter what.
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On 2017-03-04 11:58:05Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-04 04:14:07
  • That's true, but F2P players should have a lot more than 28k power at lvl 83.
The question really is why he isn't at 32k. Because if you are 32k, you are pretty much almost 40k. Some 83s can get to 32k which makes them much higher.

Really not sure what the power growth of 83 would be post-2.0, they get cave which we didn't have, but they don't have TI 81 which was a big help back then. TI 32k is better but different qualifications. I'm fairly sure I was 33k or so when I got to 85, I was 35k or so when 2.0 rolled around, at which point I have been at cap for a week or so. Not sure what I was at 83.
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On 2017-03-04 18:27:07Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-04 02:29:28
  • 4 - yeah there's an interesting discussion on the merits of damage redux vs. defense. I suggest defense since the BP formula gives more points for defense than damage redux.

    6 - Yeah nin/tai pen doesn't do anything, but most people should have a surplus of group contributions, even if you spin the group wheel max times/day. If you have the spare contributions, just increase it since there's no point in hoarding them.
Both of those are a matter of combat effectiveness vs power. Personally, as I've passed 43200, I want max combat effectiveness for MINIMAL power. Because power is useless beyond qualifying for TI in and of itself but can potentially be harmful in masuri matchmaking. I mean masuri will still match you with those 20k over you, but if I can be at the same combat effectiveness with say 2k less power, then instead of +/-20k, I'm REALLY getting +18k/-22k which is good for me.

I believe Damage redux is just as effective as defense, maybe a bit more since it's more "rounded", but less power. And tai/nin pen is +0 effectiveness but adds power, which is just poison for me, I'd rather have the contribution sit there gathering dust than getting that.

But for someone who needs to qualify 32k, gaining the extra power might be what they need, in the eventual long run it's bad but power in and of itself is useful for the moment.

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