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On 2017-03-03 05:49:32Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 04:29:28
  • I hate to say it, but I also tried this one ;P

    Either way, thanks :)
Well then..other than lightning the best team I see for you is
Onoki Sage Naruto x
Fire Main Kurotsuchi x
34243 dog of hell

If you end up as lightning the best team for you would be sasuke main kimi sailor sakura using lightning buff instead of leech
that fire main team though is a lot stronger than it looks though speed may be an issue to you vs lightning teams This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 05:51
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On 2017-03-03 06:05:17Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-03 05:49:32
  • Well then..other than lightning the best team I see for you is
    Onoki Sage Naruto x
    Fire Main Kurotsuchi x
    34243 dog of hell

    If you end up as lightning the best team for you would be sasuke main kimi sailor sakura using lightning buff instead of leech
    that fire main team though is a lot stronger than it looks though speed may be an issue to you vs lightning teams This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 05:51
If I ever get the speed required for this team to work I will give it a go, it's one of those I've not seen before :D

As I said, as long as I can stay out of lightning, I will, this class is just making me uncomfortable :/

That being said, thanks for the help, I appreciate it. I know I'm a tough customer, if I can call myself that, with all those weird conditions I have for my teams :/

That being said, I also went through testing of water team, mabui, gnw1010, darui, and even though I can say it works better than it seemed before, it's still lackluster, and I still lost to people 5k lower than me, that were also slower... * Mei, she's haunting me XD
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On 2017-03-03 07:54:39Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 06:05:17
  • If I ever get the speed required for this team to work I will give it a go, it's one of those I've not seen before :D

    As I said, as long as I can stay out of lightning, I will, this class is just making me uncomfortable :/

    That being said, thanks for the help, I appreciate it. I know I'm a tough customer, if I can call myself that, with all those weird conditions I have for my teams :/

    That being said, I also went through testing of water team, mabui, gnw1010, darui, and even though I can say it works better than it seemed before, it's still lackluster, and I still lost to people 5k lower than me, that were also slower... * Mei, she's haunting me XD
Dunno why you're so surprised to lose vs people 5K lower than you. Beyond 40K barrier, 5K difference is not that much anymore and it's entirely possible to lose if your opponent's team has more synergy or counter yours. It's not like a 20K vs a 15K. This post was last edited by Giizis at 2017-3-3 00:56
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On 2017-03-03 14:08:35Show this Author Only
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  • Giizis On 2017-03-03 07:54:39
  • Dunno why you're so surprised to lose vs people 5K lower than you. Beyond 40K barrier, 5K difference is not that much anymore and it's entirely possible to lose if your opponent's team has more synergy or counter yours. It's not like a 20K vs a 15K. This post was last edited by Giizis at 2017-3-3 00:56
Honwstly, I wouldn't mind it, if not for the fact that I never lose with anyone 5k power over me, whatever team I try. That's why I still see it as something that should not happen, because it was never possible for me in the first place :/ It's good to know though ;/
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On 2017-03-03 14:52:40Show this Author Only
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I agree with Giizis

at 40k+power, 4-5k difference is the area of possible Wins/Losses (as long as the teams are of similar synergy)

Yes many teams are controllable...

As said before, there are only a few uncontrollable teams

One sort is Lightning Main with his variations on Root of Warrior (yes there will be even more powerful versions once the seven swordsman come)

Another is Jinchuurikis (we only have 2 immune ones so far in "Naruto Ninetails Chakra" and "Bee")

And stacking mirrors is basically an immunity against the first x per turn.

So if Debuffs are your Bane and you do not want to live with them, these are your choices.
There are a few Debuff immune Characters(Versions of Itachi) but unless you aim to spend a few thousand on kage treasures the powerful ones are out of reach

You (and most among us) do not have the means to ignore debuffs right now. Get a mirror into your team that should stop the usual shutdown attempts.

That being said, even with debuff immunity, an absorbed/reflected chaos/immobile/accupuncture WILL still interrupt you

There is to my knowledge no way of avoiding that except dodging like Iruka and Itachi

That being said, Iruka is glass af, even at 3*, so I dunno what durability does he bring into the team, shielding 2 ppl besides himself :/
Shield on 3 People...thats extra life and there are not many dispells used yet.
With 3 chars of 3 elements thats the best you can hope for. Unless you go one/two element teams, which reduces the number of combos available again.

I think i understand your predicament, but i also think you ask more then your ninja pool can give you.
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On 2017-03-03 16:27:11Show this Author Only
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-03 14:52:40
  • I agree with Giizis

    at 40k+power, 4-5k difference is the area of possible Wins/Losses (as long as the teams are of similar synergy)

    Yes many teams are controllable...

    As said before, there are only a few uncontrollable teams

    One sort is Lightning Main with his variations on Root of Warrior (yes there will be even more powerful versions once the seven swordsman come)

    Another is Jinchuurikis (we only have 2 immune ones so far in "Naruto Ninetails Chakra" and "Bee")

    And stacking mirrors is basically an immunity against the first x per turn.

    So if Debuffs are your Bane and you do not want to live with them, these are your choices.
    There are a few Debuff immune Characters(Versions of Itachi) but unless you aim to spend a few thousand on kage treasures the powerful ones are out of reach

    You (and most among us) do not have the means to ignore debuffs right now. Get a mirror into your team that should stop the usual shutdown attempts.

    That being said, even with debuff immunity, an absorbed/reflected chaos/immobile/accupuncture WILL still interrupt you

    There is to my knowledge no way of avoiding that except dodging like Iruka and Itachi

    That being said, Iruka is glass af, even at 3*, so I dunno what durability does he bring into the team, shielding 2 ppl besides himself :/
    Shield on 3 People...thats extra life and there are not many dispells used yet.
    With 3 chars of 3 elements thats the best you can hope for. Unless you go one/two element teams, which reduces the number of combos available again.

    I think i understand your predicament, but i also think you ask more then your ninja pool can give you.
Where am I supposed to get myself a mirror, if I don't want to use characters that die as soon as they enter the field? Ningendo and Kurenai are my only options, with Kurenai being one of the worst ninjas in my ninja roster, and Ningendo being too glass to do anything.

Other thing is, most people I face also use mirrors, so they will reflect my reflect right back :/

And the team itself, as much as I hate to say this... is something that will take 10 turns for each fight. And in most scenarios, I will end up as the lower health one :/

I just don't know what I am doing wrong, and what can I do to fix it...
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On 2017-03-03 18:25:25Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 16:27:11
  • Where am I supposed to get myself a mirror, if I don't want to use characters that die as soon as they enter the field? Ningendo and Kurenai are my only options, with Kurenai being one of the worst ninjas in my ninja roster, and Ningendo being too glass to do anything.

    Other thing is, most people I face also use mirrors, so they will reflect my reflect right back :/

    And the team itself, as much as I hate to say this... is something that will take 10 turns for each fight. And in most scenarios, I will end up as the lower health one :/

    I just don't know what I am doing wrong, and what can I do to fix it...
Just a note: Ningendo will be farmable with the next level cap rising. It will take some times, but you can find him less squishy at 5 stars.
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On 2017-03-03 23:15:24Show this Author Only
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  • Giizis On 2017-03-03 18:25:25
  • Just a note: Ningendo will be farmable with the next level cap rising. It will take some times, but you can find him less squishy at 5 stars.
Ye ye, I know that, I'm not too keen on wasting stamina on elite instances, but oh well XD

Thanks for the help :)
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On 2017-03-04 02:24:07Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 04:32:59
  • I also do that, all events with initiative at stakes, all goes for initiative :/ Lack of luck just set me behind, with having to wait full bar before I get a lvl up, instead of getting it at half, like most ppl at least sometimes get...

    With my ninjas the problem is, regardless of how many I have, most don't work together, or are not that good at the stars I have them at :/
    That's a problem I face a lot
There's a ton of quality lineup suggestions in this post and your other ones. Your issue isn't team comp it seems, it's init (and somewhat power). Unless you pull 10 new ninjas, you probably have every usable team spelled out for you.

You could run a crazy Susano'o team, but if you have lower init, you still are going to lose a lot more than you'll win. You do have a lot of ninjas that go together, the ninjas isn't the problem. TBH, if you think that Sage Naruto is squishy, you'll never find a satisfactory team then. There's a reason he's still relevant in Kage meta and that's because he is beast both offensively and defensively. On an individual basis, he's still a top 10 (borderline top 5) ninja.
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On 2017-03-04 02:32:30Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-04 02:24:07
  • There's a ton of quality lineup suggestions in this post and your other ones. Your issue isn't team comp it seems, it's init (and somewhat power). Unless you pull 10 new ninjas, you probably have every usable team spelled out for you.

    You could run a crazy Susano'o team, but if you have lower init, you still are going to lose a lot more than you'll win. You do have a lot of ninjas that go together, the ninjas isn't the problem. TBH, if you think that Sage Naruto is squishy, you'll never find a satisfactory team then. There's a reason he's still relevant in Kage meta and that's because he is beast both offensively and defensively. On an individual basis, he's still a top 10 (borderline top 5) ninja.
I am aware of that :/

Problem with Sage Naruto being beast "defensively" as you described him, is being killed by lower power people with 1 combo... That's the most glass I can imagine.

Sure, clone brings in extra protection from standards, but if someone combos him with their barrier up, it's rip, bye bye, you wasted one slot. That mostly applies to lightning mains, although water and wind have also pulled it out already to me :/

I cannot afford any major purchases atm, so neither can I expect new ninjas, nor more power.

Unless Sage Naruto is meant to be run with life mood, then he maybe could live, concerning my issue with his tankiness.

I will be trying out the teams suggested here, although most of them I have already went through a few times, it's just repeating the same process with a tiny better results since my power increases all the time, but really slowly. Sometimes I find a new team, only to get discouraged from using it after a week or two, which is precisely what I want to avoid.
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On 2017-03-04 02:45:17Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-04 02:32:30
  • I am aware of that :/

    Problem with Sage Naruto being beast "defensively" as you described him, is being killed by lower power people with 1 combo... That's the most glass I can imagine.

    Sure, clone brings in extra protection from standards, but if someone combos him with their barrier up, it's rip, bye bye, you wasted one slot. That mostly applies to lightning mains, although water and wind have also pulled it out already to me :/

    I cannot afford any major purchases atm, so neither can I expect new ninjas, nor more power.

    Unless Sage Naruto is meant to be run with life mood, then he maybe could live, concerning my issue with his tankiness.

    I will be trying out the teams suggested here, although most of them I have already went through a few times, it's just repeating the same process with a tiny better results since my power increases all the time, but really slowly. Sometimes I find a new team, only to get discouraged from using it after a week or two, which is precisely what I want to avoid.
If you have issues with ninjas dying from 1 combo, that's a BP problem and can only be solved by gaining more power. If you're fighting an equal power team, there's no way that you're losing a ninja to one combo.
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On 2017-03-04 02:52:51Show this Author Only
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Mabui/Mei/Water Main/ GNW Tenten vs. Root of Warrior team
I would have thought that root wins, since the root team is immune to debuffs. . . .
and their resistances are buffed, no?
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On 2017-03-04 03:28:37Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-04 02:45:17
  • If you have issues with ninjas dying from 1 combo, that's a BP problem and can only be solved by gaining more power. If you're fighting an equal power team, there's no way that you're losing a ninja to one combo.
I am fighting a team that's max. 2k power higher, usually 1k lower.

I had the same wtf when I first seen that, but it just kept happening. Opponent with barrier oneshots Sage Naruto, around the same power level. It happened to me with Sailor too, but only once, so I just think it was luck of opponent to score many crits, Sage repeats itself continously though :/
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On 2017-03-04 03:30:00Show this Author Only
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  • JustAClone On 2017-03-04 02:52:51
  • Mabui/Mei/Water Main/ GNW Tenten vs. Root of Warrior team
    I would have thought that root wins, since the root team is immune to debuffs. . . .
    and their resistances are buffed, no?
What are you refering to? saying I should go lightning if I want to win against water mains?
I don't care how good this main is, I'm not sacrificing my personal comfort for this, that's my only true "condition" when building teams... no lightning XD
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On 2017-03-04 04:06:02Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-04 03:28:37
  • I am fighting a team that's max. 2k power higher, usually 1k lower.

    I had the same wtf when I first seen that, but it just kept happening. Opponent with barrier oneshots Sage Naruto, around the same power level. It happened to me with Sailor too, but only once, so I just think it was luck of opponent to score many crits, Sage repeats itself continously though :/
You need to add some damage redux runes in eight gates then. This shouldn't be a thing.
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On 2017-03-04 04:14:47Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-04 04:06:02
  • You need to add some damage redux runes in eight gates then. This shouldn't be a thing.
I'll see what I can do there, thanks :)

Will see if I can get it any higher :x
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