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On 2017-02-28 12:31:30Show this Author Only
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this matsuri is pretty messed up. Im 48k BP and I was put up against 2 62k power tonight. The team just doesnt care about us or what we trying to say. And they just always say that they will listen to everything and try to improve the gaming environment. Just all BS
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On 2017-02-28 12:51:38Show this Author Only
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I beat 2 people today 1 with 5k over me and another with 12k, both running a sus sasuke lineup. Anything can happen just build a strong team.
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On 2017-02-28 13:16:02Show this Author Only
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Matsuri is all about lineups. Most people run a main team and then select ninjas that don't have any kind of synergy leaving you with meh combos and setups. My power is around 51k. Trial and error I've lost about 2 matsuri's since it went cross server. I initially felt the same way because I hate getting my * kicked. Since then, I've beaten people with 10k even 12k more bp than me simply because of lineups. I don't win against them all the time but it's a pretty good fight about 90% of the time. There is nothing you can do about the system except work on your BP or wait a little while before you run fights. Lastly, P2W is irrelevant. Theres a 100% F2P on my server in my group with 47k BP at 85 wrecking in matsuri every week. If you spend your stuff right you'll be just as strong as people you're getting beat by. This post was last edited by veelocity at 2017-2-28 13:17
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On 2017-02-28 14:17:39Show this Author Only
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  • Kaimen On 2017-02-28 12:51:38
  • I beat 2 people today 1 with 5k over me and another with 12k, both running a sus sasuke lineup. Anything can happen just build a strong team.
Probably they are all *. I dont believe u beat someone with 12k than you. I can only believe if u say 2 or 3k than you. The reason is with the difference in power, they are tankier, do more dmg than you and definitely have higher refining than you. I can't see a right argument for you successfully beat someone that has 12k BP than you. This post was last edited by 123***@facebook at 2017-2-28 14:18
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On 2017-02-28 16:05:08Show this Author Only
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  • ShinjiIkari On 2017-02-28 14:17:39
  • Probably they are all *. I dont believe u beat someone with 12k than you. I can only believe if u say 2 or 3k than you. The reason is with the difference in power, they are tankier, do more dmg than you and definitely have higher refining than you. I can't see a right argument for you successfully beat someone that has 12k BP than you. This post was last edited by 123***@facebook at 2017-2-28 14:18
one day i won against someone who had 8k higher than me.
like i lost 3 ninjas though ....
and at the end he said ; wrong summon and mystery ..
i totally agree on u that how the hell ppl can win above 10 k power ?
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On 2017-02-28 16:24:52Show this Author Only
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plays a pay to win game, asks for balance. LMAO
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On 2017-02-28 16:51:57Show this Author Only
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I seriously am so confused why people with 30k power or less, which is basically only 2 months of game playing, think they deserve to ALWAYS face people within a 1k power difference. Which then means people who have put in way way way more money, and have played longer most likely deserve to only face high level people.

Newsflash!!!
If someone has worked over 4 months + and put in over 1,000$ to get in the 50k+ range of power, Its actually fair they 75% of the time face people 10k power below them.

Just stop pretending that if you put in 3,000$ to get a giant power boost and then go from 30k(which seriously I had only 60 days into the game only using 300$ on cursed hidan(which didnt even affect my power, since I was top anyways, although I did get about 150$ worth of free stuff from the board) that if you only fought people around your power every fight and ended up going 1 w 4 L you wouldnt throw a huge tantrum about how oasis doesnt care about you.

You say you want fairness, but in all seriousness most of you guys just hate losing, and you thought cross server meant you could be f2p or barely log in and still compete or win every fight you have. You wont. Cross server isnt a way to go from #15 on a server, where you probably would lose all the time, to winning every fight. its not the purpose of this crap. its to make the wait times less then 45minutes long, which is what happened on dead servers.

And p.s. Matsuri before cross server I would win all 5 without even using a real lineup, just for lols. Now I lose 2 every time. Its fine, that 60k power who smashed me worked hard and paid hard for that right. As long as I dont fight server 20 people (im on server 273) theres nothing to cry about. Stop fuxing saying oasis doesnt care about you. They arent a freaken charity company This post was last edited by Khannonx at 2017-2-28 16:56
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On 2017-02-28 17:20:50Show this Author Only
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die pls lel
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On 2017-02-28 18:00:51Show this Author Only
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My matsuri tonight:
-PS forgive me, some of my number keys do not work.

Me: Level 77, 30k power

Match 1: Level seventy nine, 32k power. Result: Win
Match 2: Level eighty five, sixty k power. Result: Lose.
Match 3: Level eighty three, 47k power. Result: Lose.
Match 4: Level sixty nine, 13k power. Result: Win.
Match 5: Level eighty five, 54k power. Result: Lose.

Result: RIP Matsuri. Would rather have gotten the heavy payers from my server; at least they would have said hi before kicking my *. :c

Conclusions: Feel free to state that all of this is due to my awful teambuilding skills, whining, etc. I definitely do not run endgame teams, but I feel there are several things that cannot be overcome with team building. A 30k power difference, bad matchups
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On 2017-02-28 23:21:09Show this Author Only
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  • ShinjiIkari On 2017-02-28 14:17:39
  • Probably they are all *. I dont believe u beat someone with 12k than you. I can only believe if u say 2 or 3k than you. The reason is with the difference in power, they are tankier, do more dmg than you and definitely have higher refining than you. I can't see a right argument for you successfully beat someone that has 12k BP than you. This post was last edited by 123***@facebook at 2017-2-28 14:18
You sound like a crybaby right now, and it happens all the time to beating someone higher than you, build a better team.. dear god, I'm sure people tell you this and all you say is blah blah more power. And just because they have higher power doesn't mean they have higher int? Who cares maybe they didn't stack int on the right ninja. Did you think about that? I don't even run a barrier ninja, and still beat them. Some character class ninjas are more f2p friendly play them, some need to be premium player to actually fully use it. Be smart make a smart team, work on maxing the int on your primary first slot ninja. don't just waste coupons/ingots on items cuz you want them, thing of the long term and how long that will be cost effective to you. Make smarter choices.

Like all these f2p cry about losing, what about dumping money into the game and still losing? that *s even more, and im not talking a $50 recharge here and $100 recharge there. If you've seen me around on the forums i always fight for the f2p to help you guys out, but you all have become these bernie sanders supports who believe they are entitled to eveyrthing free, this isn't oprah you aren't going to get everything for free. I understand the problems of fighting people 30k+ being a problem, hell do you think it's fun for us to fight oragiri, or agathur? Yeah totally fun..... We bend right over and drop our pants. DO you see us 50k+ complaining about the unfairity of it? no.
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On 2017-03-01 04:40:10Show this Author Only
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*pictures Jiraya bent over by oragiris Susanoo Itachi*
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On 2017-03-01 05:07:48Show this Author Only
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if i cant fight the people who r less than 60k power who am i going to fight? like 100-200 people in the game have 60k+ power and we r spread out on different timezones so we cant all fight each other in matsuri. so ur desire for "balance" is basicaly saying heres 30 people for u to fight u better hope they actualy join. how is that fair for me the person who spent money in this game to be told u dont have any1 in ur power range u r allowed to fight?

i should be screwed out of rewards because u dont want to pay money towards the game to catch up???

how is that balanced or fair?

plus the system is designed to give us fights quickly, more strict criteria for opponents means longer queue times, possibly to the point where some people cant even get enough fights to finish, win or lose.
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On 2017-03-01 05:19:43Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-03-01 05:07:48
  • if i cant fight the people who r less than 60k power who am i going to fight? like 100-200 people in the game have 60k+ power and we r spread out on different timezones so we cant all fight each other in matsuri. so ur desire for "balance" is basicaly saying heres 30 people for u to fight u better hope they actualy join. how is that fair for me the person who spent money in this game to be told u dont have any1 in ur power range u r allowed to fight?

    i should be screwed out of rewards because u dont want to pay money towards the game to catch up???

    how is that balanced or fair?

    plus the system is designed to give us fights quickly, more strict criteria for opponents means longer queue times, possibly to the point where some people cant even get enough fights to finish, win or lose.
I'm typically fighting people 10k+ pow higher than me, or 10k pow lower than me. I'm pretty sure there are people near my power; I'm just not matched against those people.

I'm ok with getting slaughtered by someone 30k pow higher when I beat up 4 ppl in a row who are 10 - 12k higher than me... but if I lose 3 in a row, and still get instant matched against someone 30k pow higher.. I'm pretty sure that is not working as intended.
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On 2017-03-01 05:40:42Show this Author Only
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Lets say theres 501 people at 50k power queing up at the same time.

500 will fight eachother. Leaving 1 in que. That 1 then has to fight someone at 40k power.
However that leaves an odd number of 887 fighting 40k vs 40k

Then a 40k who cant fight a 50k or 40k fights a 30k

Once a battle is over between a 50k and 50k, 1 of them reques faster, well a 30k was waiting in que for 45seconds, so that 50k will now instant join the 30k who was waiting fora fight.

This causes the other 50k who reques to have no opponent, so thus he will fight a 40k who is now requing.

Its a domino effect. Its not unfair. If it was unfair then a 45k power would get 60k every turn.

Heres a big secret. if you are tired of being matched up poorly Get up to the 50k Plus power bracket.

What ShadowBlaze said is seriously the entire counter argument of why im sick of 30k power new players or semi new crying. Someone will be punished. Saying it cant be "you" means the 60k power person can sit in que for 45minutes. Cross server isnt between 1-300 either. They are bracketed. So if 10 people que from a dead server and 100 servers bracket, its only a 1000 total people.

I have literally been watching this stuff from 15 servers im on. This system is fair once you hit the 45k power range. If your under 30k your basically the que filler. Think of overwatch, you would be the backup incase someone leaves. Thats how its setup. Seriously Just get more power and be happy winning 2-3. Once you hit 45k-50k you will have 3/5 matches be fair.

And honestly. If you think people who paid 2,000$ should only fight other people who paid 2,000$ then you clearly are more selfish then those people. If someone crushes me who put in 5,000$ well..thats life. There is still arena/sage battle/gnw/((to be fair dead servers need merges though)


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I want to say to. I know i come off angry but seriously after 50 plus threads of "omg oasis doesnt care about its players" because of matsuri is getting so tiring. They did an amazing job with matsuri. Not perfect, but its a huge step in the right direction. Some people have good counter points, but at the end of the day its like our health plan. It cant be perfect, no matter what side of the fence your on, it can only be "more" fair to "more" people thats all
This post was last edited by Khannonx at 2017-3-1 05:43
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