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On 2017-02-25 00:36:11Show All PostsDescending Order
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Ok can someone please explain what stats are actually being used in arena ?
Because the description stated:
All Ninjas in the arena are given lvl 100's base atributes. the only enhancement allowed is for the initiative attribute.

So as far as I understand - no stats except for initiative should matter and it should be a leveled playing field. The fact that person A has more initiative than person B should not matter in a sence, that since boths stats are basic - player A should not be able to nuke down player B in one shot.

I am lvl 85 43.291 power - I guess its Semi-Decent. In my server I can beat most people - Iv been matched to people who have 46k+ power and I managed beating them. Sage battle fields im usually somewhere in top 5. And our server is not too weak - we do have quite a few strong people.
EXPLAIN THIS !?!? - This is Arena, my team after ONE naruto ult (mifune got comboed). can this even be true ? I mean... lol ?


This post is not to complain, but can someone explain what stats are actually in play ? Arena used to be a place where lvl 50 could go nearly toe to toe with a lvl 85 (if he had the chars). I dont understand whats going on here (aspecially keeping in mind, that I do not only invest into damage, but a fair ammount of my resources into defence, resistance and life).

To be fair - I have had instances where I did the same ammount of damage to an identical team from mifune, so im 100% its not only base lvl 100 stats

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On 2017-02-25 00:52:20Show All Posts
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I mean, I dont mind getting hit so hard that the virtual nuts of all 4 of my characters leave the stratosphere go past Jupiter, say hello to the creator of the solar system and then travels back to my pc screen to reveal my hp dropped by 2/3rds, but I would like to know the reason for that, as it does not make sense, when a person with 1k more power (as per the arena) hits so hard
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On 2017-02-25 18:21:14Show All Posts
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  • VoHiYo On 2017-02-25 13:30:26
  • OP is just a * nothing to see here. He is lvl 85 but still noob lmao. wind counters lightning and onoki, iruka and main all buff naruto. Get rekt kid
Allright dude, answer and riddle me this:
I have beat this exact same build numerous times in arena (even if Onokis Barrier was up). To answer someones question I got the Root warrior for passive so thats x2 rez. I know wind counters lightning, what I dont understand is that if only 10% of stats are used in arena and lvl 1 sage naruto is the same as lvl 10k sage naruto - why does an exact same build deal such a different amount of damage ?
I had matches where this build hit a MAX 10% of teams hp (before combo) and this one dealt roughly 60-70% teams HP.
And dont tell me its just the buffs and counters, because I had matches where a person used 8 gates lee (team was lee + onoki (a few had kurosuchi) + sage) and in some cases I did not even need a full combo to kill him in other cases my full combo + my barrier (in cases with kurosuchi) was not enough to nuke him down. Keeping in mind that mifune removes the shield - shield is out of play. This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 18:22 This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 18:23
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On 2017-02-25 18:30:57Show All Posts
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Its not just me - my friend runs a wind main + gaara + temari + gakido.
I saw it with my own eyes where up against a water+mabui+tenten gnw+mei one match ten ten on the first round hit ~50% of entire teams hp with the mystery and in some cases did not deal as much as 10%.

With this specific encounter I saw different numbers with my build as well, but not as drastic, max was probably ~30% min was around 5% I guess.

That leads me to my initial point and just to clarify, I know wind beats lightning, I try to compensate that with ninja tools and + wind rezistance. But my initial point is - Why such a difference in numbers if only base stats or 10% of stats are used ?

I only got darui recently, before hand I used Kimimaru - so lets forget about the barriers as with that exact build - every one had a barrier up against me and the numbers are still drastically different. I can understand a difference in 10-20% - some people donate a sh** load, one guy in my friends server even sold his car for this game. What I dont understand is a difference in damage of 50-60% against the same setup.
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On 2017-02-25 18:33:06Show All Posts
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And finally - I must not have asked this properly in the initial post. I understand I will get rekt by wind 2x more often than any other build, but I do want to understand if gear is relevant in arena, because at the moment, it really does look like it is. As yet again, got darui like 2 days back, previoustly I used Kimimaru which means - every one had their barriers up.
Cant really appreciate an answer wind>lightning. And iruka and barrier = rekt imo, much op *ed, so wow, much noob. As even if I am to consider for say a 5 star tenten or naruto - the difference in stats would be 10%, which does not add up to a difference in damage by 50-60% (this is keeping in mind, that naruto for say cant be a 2 star)

My damage is different as well, even using Kimi - I dealt up to 50% damage into naruto from Mifunes Mystery and I had a match, where it did not even kill a wind clone (from AOE damage). A dude who is the strongest earth in our server said he had a match, where he couldnt even kill a wind clone AT ALL - THROUGH OUT THE ENTIRE MATCH - thats from a guy who has 49k BP.
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On 2017-02-25 18:58:48Show All Posts
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  • Khannonx On 2017-02-25 09:15:30
  • level 100 characters base stats + 10% of 75k BP vs = base stats + 7,500BP
    level 100 characters base stats + 10% of 25k BP vs = base stats + 2,500BP

    Difference of 5,000 BP
    However a base Stat of level 100 is around 45k BP. So its a pretty small difference. However if both of you have a kage barrier ninja, and one is faster. your looking at 40% attack, which is closer to a 10,000BP difference assuming it buffs all 4 ninja. So basically..Refines/refines/refines xD

    Same level of refines(which makes no sense but whatever)

There aren't many people with 75k BP even if we take all of the servers.
Note this is in Kage rank, not in 6 paths, so the odds are even slimmer.

Say I do meet up with a person with 60k Bp (lets face it - every server has at least one)
So its his 6k Bp against my 4.5k bp. His barrier is +40% so its 8400k.

Say what you will - that power difference does not compensate for the difference as someone say in this post "for some to barely scratch the surface and others to heavy nuke you" as there will be a BP minimum even for a lvl 1 nab.
Oh and a bit of an eddit: BP involves Life, attack, ninjutsu, defence, resistance, crit, injury, control, combo, att and nin *ion, damage reduction and life recovery, so its not like all 4.5k and 8.4 is pure damage. its more like a 562 and 933 difference in attack (maybe even less of a difference) which, yet again, does not compensate or explain a 5-6x damage difference with the same build. It could be explained if the enemy had ~100-150k BP (if we only count the 10% stat usage and comparison base line of 45k bp)

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On 2017-02-26 21:09:21Show All Posts
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As for me, Im fairly ok with how it matches me, but I was simply shocked to see such a difference in damage that the enemy dishes out and receives from me if only the base stats are used.
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On 2017-02-26 23:13:10Show All Posts
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Alright, here's the deal, I really don't think its only the base stats, I didn't take a screenshot, but:
I met a team, thats exactly the same as mine, except Darui is replaced as Kimimaru.
My power is near 44k + I had a barrier running from Darui.
I asked my opponent, he said he had "Near 49k"
In either case as far as Mifunes Ult goes - its not affected by the barrier.
My power in arena was 26642 his was 267* (dont remember the last numbers).
His mifune dealt a bit over 50% to my main, mine did just a slight bit under 20% (maybe 20%).

I would expect these numbers in real life, but not in arena..
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