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[ Lineup ] How to counter Fire Main with Water Main?

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On 2017-02-24 10:47:26Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Fire mains tilt me the most out of anything in this game. They reflect statuses, put people to sleep, and interrupt mystery activations. I have zero idea how to deal with them.
I need help.
I need help bad. This is "I want to quit the game because of these people" bad. They are everywhere on my server. If I run into one around my level in Survival Trial, then it's goodbye Survival Trial for the rest of the day. I don't even bother playing Sage anymore because of how many there are. I just press auto and alt+tab. Fire Main is ruining my game experience and I can't, for the life of me, figure out what to do.

Does anyone have a general gameplan / character recommendations?
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On 2017-02-24 10:48:52Show this Author Only
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Find the weakness of fire main.
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On 2017-02-24 10:50:48Show this Author Only
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I'm asking for the weakness.
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On 2017-02-24 11:52:28Show this Author Only
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I know you want to hear some advice here but unfortunatly im not familiar whit the azure fang but why not you change main character if you have issues fire vs water (funny thing fire has water ressistance penalty)
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On 2017-02-24 11:53:35Show this Author Only
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Become the hate. Be one with the hate. The other solution is just Root of the warrior by lightning.
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On 2017-02-24 11:59:07Show this Author Only
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  • RZA On 2017-02-24 11:52:28
  • I know you want to hear some advice here but unfortunatly im not familiar whit the azure fang but why not you change main character if you have issues fire vs water (funny thing fire has water ressistance penalty)
Fire has the resistance penalty but its hard to make use of the elemental advantage when they reflect status and put half your team to sleep/control right at the start. And Azure Fang's most useful combination Chakra Blade chase + Neurotoxin and causing Chaos doesn't work too well because despite countering Scarlet Blaze's element, he counters our ability to inflict status effects. This post was last edited by cad***@gmail.com at 2017-2-24 12:02 This post was last edited by cad***@gmail.com at 2017-2-24 12:04
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On 2017-02-24 12:09:51Show this Author Only
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There are various ways to counter sleep:

Lightning Main - Root of warrior team (with Jugo / Iruka)
Water Main - Clone as passive with healer ninjas (if you are not using water main as healer)
Wind Main - Shadow clones passive
Earth Main - Genjutsu Reflection ninjas like kurenai

best way to counter sleep is to run healer / debuff removal ninjas ( jigokudo, mabui, kurenai etc).
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On 2017-02-24 12:15:14Show this Author Only
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You should just use POISTON TAI, since your poison will pop off the Mirror Genjutsu, you will be able to proc the Chaos in the chase (If you are running Chakra Dissection blade, which you should use). And obviously, it will only be useful when using Taijutsu Mistery's or Standart Attack to start the combo, anyways, thats how you "counter" it.
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On 2017-02-24 12:15:30Show this Author Only
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Sadly only the chaos in my mind i know its not really working well and accupunture if you have Ao for example
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On 2017-02-24 12:30:52Show this Author Only
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Switch to Lighting Main , I'm a fire main and I can't do * when I face a Lighting unless I can take him out before the 1st round ends , which usually isn't the case because they have him protected for the most part. He stops my combos and he can get another sword swipe with each kill he gets. A real pain in the ass!

As for the reflect status , build a team with kurenai... It should do some good , if your ninja went first with a buff because it would go something like >poison to fire main>fire main reflects>Kurenai reflects back. Now if the fire main ninja went first it would be reversed and you would get the debuff.

Generally speaking it's basically like a game of cat and mouse , It comes down to the initiative on who's the cat is going to be each round.
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On 2017-02-24 15:01:34Show this Author Only
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As water, you can easily work around the mirror by using poison tai. It'll pop the mirror before your chaos is applied on a normal combo chain. Just don't shark bomb before popping the mirror.
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