i can win fights where i am slower with my team, in fact some fights i win BECAUSE im slower and my barrier will go off after theirs. so init while useful doesnt mean u auto win/lose. personaly i laugh at those water teams because i know i win regardless of init, they cant nuke me fast enough and i will just laugh at them when they get stun locked

thats only for passive barriers, for manual barriers like hashirama the slower person keeps their barrier. maybe u should learn how the game works b4 u comment