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On 2016-08-09 11:44:09Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Is this standard attack a guaranteed sleep? It seems relatively overpowered considering how a standard with a 100% disable can interupt some NON-PROMPT skills such as Gaara's mystery etc.
Standard attack that can disable a game changing jutsu? seems very annoying.
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On 2016-08-09 11:51:30Show this Author Only
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Not that powerful. With that skill, most of the time you have to put him right in front of the formation so he can attack BEFORE his opponent finish their action. while it may be great, actually fitting him into a spot that make the attack count isn't that simple or the Sleeping will do absolutely nothing.
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On 2016-08-09 11:57:57Show this Author Only
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  • VNS On 2016-08-09 11:51:30
  • Not that powerful. With that skill, most of the time you have to put him right in front of the formation so he can attack BEFORE his opponent finish their action. while it may be great, actually fitting him into a spot that make the attack count isn't that simple or the Sleeping will do absolutely nothing.
im talking about skills that are not "PROMPT" skills such as Gaara's. The fact that a simple standard attack can cancel this jutsu is quite annoying. I dont have trouble beating them regularly, however in ranked... Im not in control and a standard sleep skill essentially canceled out a large part of my damage.
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On 2016-08-09 12:04:25Show this Author Only
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Yeah, I use Scarlet Blaze and it's very good. It doesn't work on Hinata or Neji's defense like the fire standard attack but I've cancelled many mystery attacks with it.
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On 2016-08-09 13:04:52Show this Author Only
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The thing about the sleep attack is - your main needs to be the last one to attack in that lane, and if your main is facing an empty lane then it's in most cases useless. I gave it a try for a while, but went back to the standard tai attack as the ignite chance is too good =)
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On 2016-08-09 13:08:03Show this Author Only
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  • ProtoZero On 2016-08-09 11:57:57
  • im talking about skills that are not "PROMPT" skills such as Gaara's. The fact that a simple standard attack can cancel this jutsu is quite annoying. I dont have trouble beating them regularly, however in ranked... Im not in control and a standard sleep skill essentially canceled out a large part of my damage.
It shouldn't be interrupting your jutsu at all. If it is, you're not timing correctly. Hold off on casting Gaara's jutsu till Scarlet Blaze acts or at least until just before the jutsu would activate (after all prompt jutsus have fired).

Waiting to activate a jutsu until the right moment will have it fire off instantly with no warning to the opponent and no chance to interrupt it.
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On 2016-08-09 13:59:04Show this Author Only
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Good skill to use but it's not 100% guaranteed that it will work, just like all other controlling skills such as acupuncture, immobility etc, they all have chances of failing sometimes, that's why you have a stat for control in the details of the character panel, which indicates "the probability of controlling opponents/reduce the probability of being controlled."
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On 2016-08-09 14:26:35Show this Author Only
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;P people seem to forget you can't combo while asleep
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On 2016-08-10 00:41:10Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-09 13:08:03
  • It shouldn't be interrupting your jutsu at all. If it is, you're not timing correctly. Hold off on casting Gaara's jutsu till Scarlet Blaze acts or at least until just before the jutsu would activate (after all prompt jutsus have fired).

    Waiting to activate a jutsu until the right moment will have it fire off instantly with no warning to the opponent and no chance to interrupt it.
in ranked, they use it first moment, and then gets interupted. Which is why im saying i c*ually beat these scarlet blazes. Except when im in ranked
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On 2016-08-11 08:44:38Show this Author Only
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hinats rotation can block it so can kimimaru and neji
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On 2016-08-11 10:34:42Show this Author Only
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Ya from fire 100% works. This is different to acupuncture from water sometimes fails.
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On 2016-08-11 10:55:30Show this Author Only
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I find those lightning mains attacking 5 times in a row to be more annoying than this.
Just my opinion though.
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On 2016-08-11 11:00:46Show this Author Only
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  • Shikuro On 2016-08-11 10:55:30
  • I find those lightning mains attacking 5 times in a row to be more annoying than this.
    Just my opinion though.
That's a mystery jutsu and it's only 3 times. Another passive can add an attack to make it 4 times. If they kill someone/clones they get extra attacks each time.

Versus say a Wind main using her mystery jutsu to deal massive damage to 9 targets all at once. More total damage.

The Sleep attack passive is a standard attack though. None of Lightning's standards attack multiple times, though a passive can give them 2 standards per turn. Only 2 unless they kill clones/ninjas. Zabuza and Suigetsu have the same ability so you can get that passive for your ninjas as well just as the sleep attack is something Itachi can do.
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On 2016-08-11 12:34:08Show this Author Only
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Think of it this way bois and gals - it's a trade off for not being able to start a combo with your standard attack. If sleep is so crazy strong why have I not been seeing tayuyas everywhere... Sleep is kind of RNG based too, by which i mean it's based entirely on your opponents lineup and positioning - unless of course you don't mind having your main as Move 4 - which I don't really ever recommend as Blaze.
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On 2016-08-11 22:04:14Show this Author Only
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  • Overmain On 2016-08-11 10:34:42
  • Ya from fire 100% works. This is different to acupuncture from water sometimes fails.
I find Lightning and Wind to be the least annoying of the classes.
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On 2016-08-14 15:42:53Show this Author Only
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LOL everyone stfu the only people that complain are the ones who dont know anything if your gaara wasnt slow and had same speed or more it would go first also not all moves has same cast rate some cast faster than others for example sasuke and gaara on the background change sasuke is nomally slowly as for kirin is faster thans gaara special no class is "op" its all builds in statistics stop complaining just cause you lost.
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On 2016-08-14 16:06:21Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-08-14 15:42:53
  • LOL everyone stfu the only people that complain are the ones who dont know anything if your gaara wasnt slow and had same speed or more it would go first also not all moves has same cast rate some cast faster than others for example sasuke and gaara on the background change sasuke is nomally slowly as for kirin is faster thans gaara special no class is "op" its all builds in statistics stop complaining just cause you lost.
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that standard loses to pets tho. thats the best counter othan opposing fures/ kurenai w mirror genjutsu. i wish winds had borderline broke stuff hahahaha
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On 2016-08-14 21:20:16Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-08-14 15:42:53
  • LOL everyone stfu the only people that complain are the ones who dont know anything if your gaara wasnt slow and had same speed or more it would go first also not all moves has same cast rate some cast faster than others for example sasuke and gaara on the background change sasuke is nomally slowly as for kirin is faster thans gaara special no class is "op" its all builds in statistics stop complaining just cause you lost.
there are "Prompt" skills which will always go before non-prompt skills.

Sasuke's Kirin and Gaara's Sand Burial are non-prompt skills, thus they will always go after the prompts, etc. Initiative would come into play if both skills are in same category.
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On 2016-08-17 15:33:03Show this Author Only
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  • ProtoZero On 2016-08-14 21:20:16
  • there are "Prompt" skills which will always go before non-prompt skills.

    Sasuke's Kirin and Gaara's Sand Burial are non-prompt skills, thus they will always go after the prompts, etc. Initiative would come into play if both skills are in same category.
then how about use a prompt attack nothing in this game will game the game is already made.
lighting can hit up to 6 times on lowest hp
water can control
wind well tbh idk they have a crap ton clones to block my sleep anyway never played them tho
everyone has there on thing earth can even revive.
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On 2016-08-17 17:50:20Show this Author Only
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how is sleep so overpowered to you guys when lightning can disable skills and comboing with a very powerful aoe? if youre a lightning and complaining about this, please shut up.
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