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- Shadoblaze On 2017-02-07 06:29:25
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there is no turn 1 prompt chakra eating mystery to stop the chakra gain from the lightning main who generates 80 chakra by himself after spending 20 for his myst. and the gakido makes the tendo immune to all cc as well so u cant stop it with accupuncture or immobile. tendo is move 2 with 5k shields from konan so ur not stopping that when he can negate one auto already, plus extra shielding from gakido
so to counter it u need 2 prompt skills turn 1, one of which has to be hard cc the other can be interupt, interupt gakido then cc tendo, which if ur not fire main with seal then u need to generate chakra to use the second myst and no chakra generating nin has interupt so there is ur team, and if u miss 1 myst timing turn 1 u lose 3k health, tendo then uses skill on turn 3 anyway since ur cc r on cd. plus the triple konan myst turn 2 means ur going to take alot of damage and get accupunctured on 3 nin so yeah its gg
O...k...
Have you ever ACTUALLY tried Immobile on an immune target who are casting its mystery before? It might not leave the target with any ill effects, but it still interupts the skill. Yes, you can't stop the insane chakra gain, but you can stop the mystery. It's all about timing!
Also, if the guy actually invests enough to get a Ultra rare like Tendo, and then back him up with a 5k shield from Konan and Gakido... mate, that when you realise that they are p2w and accept defeat. -
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- Watanuki13 On 2017-02-07 11:42:52
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O...k...
Have you ever ACTUALLY tried Immobile on an immune target who are casting its mystery before? It might not leave the target with any ill effects, but it still interupts the skill. Yes, you can't stop the insane chakra gain, but you can stop the mystery. It's all about timing!
Also, if the guy actually invests enough to get a Ultra rare like Tendo, and then back him up with a 5k shield from Konan and Gakido... mate, that when you realise that they are p2w and accept defeat.
i have tried it, against a normal immune target it will interupt, against an immune target who is immune to interupt like mifune or tendo it does nothing.
im p2w as well, hes spent more than me for ninja but our power is very close and this was 3v3 thats why his shields got so high, 3 konan buffs -
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- Shadoblaze On 2017-02-07 11:49:32
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i have tried it, against a normal immune target it will interupt, against an immune target who is immune to interupt like mifune or tendo it does nothing.
im p2w as well, hes spent more than me for ninja but our power is very close and this was 3v3 thats why his shields got so high, 3 konan buffs
I have to go back and re-check the Tendo-Gakido formation you described, because what you described is just...odd. And no, it works. You can interupt Tendo via Immobile and Accupuncture, even with him being immune. Gakido shield makes the target immune for one round, but it could still be interrupted.
If you still aren't convinced, just practice on the immune Tendo in Pain's ti. Like i said, it's all about timing.
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- misakomomo On 2017-02-07 12:38:23
- You cannot interupt sum1 who has lightning immume and skill immume to interupt... since they wont get any effects blind.acapuncture etc tendo etc arent swordsman tho last i checked what am i typin here haha :D This post was last edited by misakomomo at 2017-2-7 12:39
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no sir :)
for example my bee makes my hidan immume to interupt together with light main immume talent ao/nejidanzo combo all failed to interupt me. tried and tested.
the way ur suggestin is for sum1 to time the interupt when i do the skill. which wud work normally but when ur immume to debuffs like acapuncture it will not work :D
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- misakomomo On 2017-02-07 12:44:07
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no sir :)
for example my bee makes my hidan immume to interupt together with light main immume talent ao/nejidanzo combo all failed to interupt me. tried and tested.
the way ur suggestin is for sum1 to time the interupt when i do the skill. which wud work normally but when ur immume to debuffs like acapuncture it will not work :D
This post was last edited by misakomomo at 2017-2-7 12:47
This could actually explain why that particular Tendo cannot be interrupted. If Killer B actually was present in that line-up and applied his skill on Tendo after Gakido has shielded him, then it would be as you said. But if he isn't,...
Prop for whatever team that came up with that for GNW.
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Just wna throw this out there, try wind mains 4th mystery, it removes konans shields/buffs and (lightning main lightning buff) and probably any immunity granted by bee and gakido (not tested but i say probably since i have confirmed it can remove stuff like root of warrior).
Hopefully that can reduce some of tendos dmg since he has triple konan buff and may even let u kill him from a lucky combo... and last u to round 2.. if not u c*so run 1 or 2 teams with wb asuma or sage naruto + an acupuncture/chaos/immobile ninja and stop 1 or 2 of the 3 tendo mysteries first round This post was last edited by xetech at 2017-2-7 13:31 This post was last edited by xetech at 2017-2-7 13:39 -
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- Watanuki13 On 2017-02-07 13:09:05
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This could actually explain why that particular Tendo cannot be interrupted. If Killer B actually was present in that line-up and applied his skill on Tendo after Gakido has shielded him, then it would be as you said. But if he isn't,...
Prop for whatever team that came up with that for GNW.
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- misakomomo On 2017-02-07 14:09:25
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iruka/asumawb/lightmain/ao cud work :P against konan/tendo/gakido/lightmain
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iruka on lightmain to stop chakra mystery
tendo is 60 chakra? dont have him :P but if it is use ao to stop him or neji ;p
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Wtf dude, u said urself that u cant interrupt someone who is immune to debuffs and immune to interruption...
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Midnight blade isn't as op as people seem to think it is. A team i've been running for a while tends to deal with these so called "OP" lightning mains with no real fuss.
Most of them tend to sit in slot 1 so:
Wind Main - Sage Naruto - x
Ningendo - Killer Bee - x
x - x - x
Use Bee to buff the wind main, in turn the wind main will then debuff the lightning team with no fear of interrupt since she can't be stopped. Play to chase off of the wind main or sage low float to lead up to an immobile from Ningendo's chase and there you have it. Useless Lightning main.
In terms of GNW though, we had 3 water mains (45k, 43k and 51k) vs 3 light mains (60k, 51k and 45k) and frankly we got destroyed.
The following week i ran:
Wind Main - Sage Naruto - x
Conference Temari - Gaara (normal) - x
x - x -x
and well, the roles were reversed, Gaara played as bait to take any acupuncture and interrupts turn 1 or they would lose the barrier they have, in doing so it would leave the wind main free to debuff the strongest light main and then another team could control it by acupuncture and immobile as both water mains had Ao + Mei.
The 60k power didn't get to attack once and the 51k power Light main died turn 2, so rather than moaning that something is OP learn to figure out counters. -
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a lot of ppl think lightning is op but actually his damage isnt that greater than u think it is in terms of total damage. Aoe damage, fire mc's, mei's aoe does more damage than lightning. just lightning mc is specialized at one target and it may kill one ninja out that will break ur balance is kinda issue.
also u notice that mystery is always faster than auto att.
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- Amarise On 2017-02-07 16:23:15
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Midnight blade isn't as op as people seem to think it is. A team i've been running for a while tends to deal with these so called "OP" lightning mains with no real fuss.
Most of them tend to sit in slot 1 so:
Wind Main - Sage Naruto - x
Ningendo - Killer Bee - x
x - x - x
Use Bee to buff the wind main, in turn the wind main will then debuff the lightning team with no fear of interrupt since she can't be stopped. Play to chase off of the wind main or sage low float to lead up to an immobile from Ningendo's chase and there you have it. Useless Lightning main.
In terms of GNW though, we had 3 water mains (45k, 43k and 51k) vs 3 light mains (60k, 51k and 45k) and frankly we got destroyed.
The following week i ran:
Wind Main - Sage Naruto - x
Conference Temari - Gaara (normal) - x
x - x -x
and well, the roles were reversed, Gaara played as bait to take any acupuncture and interrupts turn 1 or they would lose the barrier they have, in doing so it would leave the wind main free to debuff the strongest light main and then another team could control it by acupuncture and immobile as both water mains had Ao + Mei.
The 60k power didn't get to attack once and the 51k power Light main died turn 2, so rather than moaning that something is OP learn to figure out counters.
thank you .
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- Watanuki13 On 2017-02-07 12:30:10
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I have to go back and re-check the Tendo-Gakido formation you described, because what you described is just...odd. And no, it works. You can interupt Tendo via Immobile and Accupuncture, even with him being immune. Gakido shield makes the target immune for one round, but it could still be interrupted.
If you still aren't convinced, just practice on the immune Tendo in Pain's ti. Like i said, it's all about timing.
This post was last edited by Watanuki13 at 2017-2-7 12:32
http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11892&pid=89117&fromuid=113
a mod saying it works as i described.
trust me its not about timing, its just not possible to stop tendo if hes immune to cc from any effect like gakido or fire main shields.
practicing on the tendo in pain ti wont prove anything because it might not have the same type of immunity that players have, just like sasuke in kage ti has different myst than player version, pve enemies arent the same as pvp enemies no matter how close they may look to it -
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