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Get ready for the longest,biggest, most useless post of your life everyone:

We all react with ''HOW DA FK DID HE USE NINJUTSU BEFORE ME!!!!'' when the enemy gets to use ninjutsu 1st. Today i'm hoping my explanation can help you understand that factors that decide who goes 1st. I'd also appreciate if someone could make an easier to understand version with less text about it because I don't know of another way to explain it.

This here is your Battlefield:

7 4 1
8 5 2
9 6 3

According to where you have your characters at, it will decide who gets to attack first. The smaller the number the faster your character will attack. Meaning if your character is in position ''1'' he'll attack faster than the enemy in position ''2''. Let's say one of you characters is at position ''1'' and one of the enemy characters is at position ''1'', In that case whoever has the ''lightest'' attack attacks 1st, Fire's sleeping normal attack is ''lighter'' to all the standard attacks in the game,that's why he'll always go 1st before the enemy, However, if the refinment difference between the 2 characters are huge then the enemy will go 1st. Refinement doesn't play a big role as much as the position of your character and type of attacks used. So The position and type of attack decides who attacks 1st, the position is more important when it's just normal attacks.

As for ninjutstu, Someone in position ''1'' will activate it faster than someone in position ''2'' However, unlike normal attacks, some ninjutsu takes priority over others. Let's assume you have shikamaru at position ''9'', And the enemy character activating ninjutsu is at position ''1'', Shikamaru will then activate ninjutstu 1st. As i said before, the position AND type of ninjutsu determines who uses ninjutstu 1st, Shikamaru causes immobalize which takes priority over every other ninjutsu in the game because it's the second ''lightest'' ninjutsu in the game. Area changing ninjutsu like Haku,Sasuke and Anko have 2 stages. 1st stage is where you change the enviroment which takes normal priority, meaning if it's activates in position ''2'' and the enemy activates a ninjutstu in position ''1'' then the enemy will use ninjutstu first. The 2nd part of the move though,the one that requires 40 chakra which deals damage, that is the ''lightest'' ninjutsu in the game and is the only ninjutsu type faster than shikamaru's immobalize. The Fire's Seal mystery takes 3rd fastest priority in the game, being slower than shikamaru's immobalize and enviroment changing mysteries. Now note, Shikamaru's mystery isn't the fastest in the game, shikamaru's ninjutsu ''type'' is the fastest in the game. Meaning Zabuza (hidden mist unit)'s mystery causes immobalize to the enemy, Therefore, it's also the 2nd fastest ninjutsu to be activated, being slower than enviroment chaning mystery (2nd part). As to how to know what ninjutsu ''type'' is the ''lightest'' and fastest, You'll have to get a feel of it as you play. Lightning's Chidori blade seems to be a little lighter than other area attack mysteries for some reason, which is why if he's in position ''1'' and fire uses dragon flame jutsu while also in position ''1'' chidori blade will always activate 1st, unless the refinement difference is too big.

1 last thing, If an enemy uses ninjutsu, and you use immobalize or seal on him 2 seconds before his ninjutsu activates, he'll get the 1st move, there's a small delay in the game, so even though you activated immobalize 2 secs before his ninjutsu activates, to the game, it'll be considered you activated immobalize AFTER his ninjutsu was in effect, So you need to either guess who's gonna use the ninjutsu or be quick enough to immobalize him, Alternatively If you set the game to Auto, It'll automatically immobalize,seal,interrupt etc... any enemy using ninjutsu without u have to guess, however that also means it'll activate the other mysteries you have on randoms, so it's best to use other mysteries 1st then set it to auto for the immobalize,seal etc.. then return it back to normal.

Congratulations if you managed to read through all that long text and understand my explanation, i'm not the best at explaining stuff like this so some things might be unclear here and there.



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On 2016-08-07 21:40:45Show this Author Only
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Well... I think everyone who reached at least 40 lvl know how to things works... If not, they should just change game and choose the easier one. Gird is the most important thing. In the pve you have to just press a key faster than the enemy computer to cast your jutsu first. In pvp same initiative and same rank wins the one who pressed key faster. In +40 lvls big role plays secondary stat initiative. Thats all you have to know I think.
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On 2016-08-07 22:35:03Show this Author Only
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Just off the top of my head, Ninjas that I use that have moves faster than pretty much everyone else.

Neji
Gai
Kimimaro
Kakashi

Shikamaru and Kabuto and even Midnight Blade bow down to these guys. These guys are just insanely fast.

Also, if you know your enemy is faster than you, don't start casting jutsu at the beginning of your turn. You're not going to get your jutsu off first anyway so you might as well wait to see what he does before wasting your opportunity. A lot of dumb people get easily interrupted by my control moves.

Yet let's say you're fighting Midnight Blade as a Water main (I've had this happen against me) and he disables your combos or triggers a Shikamaru stun combo. Don't do anything. Just wait for your healer to remove the debuffs THEN do something at the end of your turn. You act last in this case. Always know whether you're the Aggro player or the Control player. You can STILL pull off your combos if you don't trigger them immediately while you're still under the bad effects.

Some people are just bad at tactics games though. The smart ones destroy their opponents. I spend every arena match memorizing the cooldown, chakra cost, and availability of my opponent's skills and keeping tracking of what he can do each turn along with predicting what he will do so I can prepare a counterspell.

Likewise, if your enemy has interrupts or controls available DO NOT queue up casts. Instead, wait till just after someone has completed an action then use the jutsu. The jutsu will fire off INSTANTLY and give no warning for the interrupt player. Proper timing is critical to this game and so many idiots calling for nerfs are incapable of doing it.
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On 2016-08-20 02:25:30Show this Author Only
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Well said sir.
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On 2016-08-20 02:45:10Show this Author Only
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I don't think that applies for ranked battles since everything is automated.

But, yeah, I think I'm getting a better grasp on how initiative works. Thanks a lot!
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On 2016-08-20 03:11:19Show this Author Only
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  • Bloodraven On 2016-08-07 21:40:45
  • Well... I think everyone who reached at least 40 lvl know how to things works... If not, they should just change game and choose the easier one. Gird is the most important thing. In the pve you have to just press a key faster than the enemy computer to cast your jutsu first. In pvp same initiative and same rank wins the one who pressed key faster. In +40 lvls big role plays secondary stat initiative. Thats all you have to know I think.
Well gezzzz, screw slow learners, huh? Plus, new features are introduced after level 40, so you can't understand how things work if you just unlocked it.
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On 2016-08-20 22:36:59Show this Author Only
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nice topic it really helped me .thanks for sharing :)
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On 2016-08-24 03:51:28Show this Author Only
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Nicely done, Congrats :)
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On 2016-08-24 12:31:43Show this Author Only
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That really helped me a lot! Thanks!:)
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On 2016-08-24 13:16:14Show this Author Only
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  • Kyutaru On 2016-08-07 22:35:03
  • Just off the top of my head, Ninjas that I use that have moves faster than pretty much everyone else.

    Neji
    Gai
    Kimimaro
    Kakashi

    Shikamaru and Kabuto and even Midnight Blade bow down to these guys. These guys are just insanely fast.

    Also, if you know your enemy is faster than you, don't start casting jutsu at the beginning of your turn. You're not going to get your jutsu off first anyway so you might as well wait to see what he does before wasting your opportunity. A lot of dumb people get easily interrupted by my control moves.

    Yet let's say you're fighting Midnight Blade as a Water main (I've had this happen against me) and he disables your combos or triggers a Shikamaru stun combo. Don't do anything. Just wait for your healer to remove the debuffs THEN do something at the end of your turn. You act last in this case. Always know whether you're the Aggro player or the Control player. You can STILL pull off your combos if you don't trigger them immediately while you're still under the bad effects.

    Some people are just bad at tactics games though. The smart ones destroy their opponents. I spend every arena match memorizing the cooldown, chakra cost, and availability of my opponent's skills and keeping tracking of what he can do each turn along with predicting what he will do so I can prepare a counterspell.

    Likewise, if your enemy has interrupts or controls available DO NOT queue up casts. Instead, wait till just after someone has completed an action then use the jutsu. The jutsu will fire off INSTANTLY and give no warning for the interrupt player. Proper timing is critical to this game and so many idiots calling for nerfs are incapable of doing it.
Same level refine with a neji player and same position, neji bows down to hinata's speed. Well that's a twist
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On 2016-08-24 13:40:52Show this Author Only
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Doesnt matter which number u're standing, as long as that ninja is move 1 on both team, depends who has more initiaitive, they will cast first..then followed by move 2 and so on.

My ninja standing at 5 vs opponent ninja at 1. Both are move 1. I will still cast first if my initiative is higher than his.
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On 2016-08-24 14:31:55Show this Author Only
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Thanks for making this, I figured as much when I was trying to beat ninja exam team Guy, lee, neji, tenten (sorry I forgot the number), but I couldn't make it 100% clear like you did. Great job!
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On 2016-08-25 04:28:46Show this Author Only
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I usually get Naruto Giant Rasengan/Rasen-Shuriken off before anyone on the opposite team which leads Hinata to acupuncture whoever I targeted (if I chose a target that is). And Naruto be move 3 and attacks before anyone in move 1.
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On 2016-08-26 11:38:32Show this Author Only
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Aight didn't really read it that much and understood it so I'm gonna ask my Problem, so Here's my positions:
HInata is on move 1, Main(scarlet) is on move 2, Sasuke is on Move 3, and Kabuto is on move 4,

Hinata has the highest Initiative and since she's on move 1 she attacks 1st with her Taijutsu followed by my Main also attacking with his taijutsu.. Now here;s my problem: I want HInata to activate her Mystery 1st but it seems that Sasuke is beating her to that.. (Note/: Sasuke is 3 Star)

I thought that having the highest Initiative will activate it's Mystery 1st but it seems I'm missing something.. WELP ME :(
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On 2016-08-26 22:50:41Show this Author Only
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R u talking about auto mode? cause if so, the game used sasuke's mystery instead of hinata, but let's say u have 40 chakra and u activate sasuke and hinata's mystery,hinata's mystery WILL activate 1st. (Stars have nothing to do with initiative btw, they just increase the stats,nothing more)
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On 2016-08-26 23:38:40Show this Author Only
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loool this games really proves who is the realy keyboard warrior ;P;P:lol
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On 2016-08-27 00:28:19Show this Author Only
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thanks for the great info mate cheers :loveliness:
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On 2016-08-30 03:34:43Show this Author Only
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great to know
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On 2016-09-01 00:13:29Show this Author Only
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yesguhjkm,l
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On 2016-09-01 00:20:29Show this Author Only
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thx for the info bro
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