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On 2017-01-06 17:45:36Show this Author Only
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fire wasn't really nerfed. I'd say it was buffed
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On 2017-01-06 17:46:48Show this Author Only
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Do you guys think fire was buffed or nerfed? It definitely had the power of some things toned down but the power of some stuff was increased.
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On 2017-01-06 19:44:39Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 17:46:48
  • Do you guys think fire was buffed or nerfed? It definitely had the power of some things toned down but the power of some stuff was increased.
fire is useless now. he lost a lot of power and the "buffs" are useless to him. removing the ignite buff from 2 talent makes it so bomb team is more useless now and since one of his main champions that fire used (tobi) was nerfed he is even more *.
Overall they made changes so p2w players have more power and f2p players get *ted on. nerfing the best f2p ninja and making it one of the worse ninjas you can have is really bad.
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On 2017-01-06 19:51:44Show this Author Only
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  • Woaltek On 2017-01-06 19:44:39
  • fire is useless now. he lost a lot of power and the "buffs" are useless to him. removing the ignite buff from 2 talent makes it so bomb team is more useless now and since one of his main champions that fire used (tobi) was nerfed he is even more *.
    Overall they made changes so p2w players have more power and f2p players get *ted on. nerfing the best f2p ninja and making it one of the worse ninjas you can have is really bad.
to me it seems like only bani chakra and genjutsu mirror got nerfed but now phoenix fire (or whatever it's called) causes ignition and i think it's btter than the dragon thing. Plus he still has th sleeping genjutsu and he still does more damage than the other mains.
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On 2017-01-06 19:55:23Show this Author Only
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  • Woaltek On 2017-01-06 19:44:39
  • fire is useless now. he lost a lot of power and the "buffs" are useless to him. removing the ignite buff from 2 talent makes it so bomb team is more useless now and since one of his main champions that fire used (tobi) was nerfed he is even more *.
    Overall they made changes so p2w players have more power and f2p players get *ted on. nerfing the best f2p ninja and making it one of the worse ninjas you can have is really bad.
I do have to agree with you on one thing though, and that's that team combinations with him won't be as good because of some of the top fire nature guys being nerfed but his new ability ninjutsu urge seems really good and or you could use red lotus secret
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On 2017-01-06 19:56:45Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 19:51:44
  • to me it seems like only bani chakra and genjutsu mirror got nerfed but now phoenix fire (or whatever it's called) causes ignition and i think it's btter than the dragon thing. Plus he still has th sleeping genjutsu and he still does more damage than the other mains.
nope, he doesn't do more damage than other mains. all of his damage used to come from tobi and buffed ignite. right now the best standing main is lighting main and now since they nerfed the counter of lighting main (earth ) lighting is now going to rule pvp. and guess what, the counter of fire is lighting main. and since they nerfed bomb teams for great ninja war, expect to see full teams of lighting mains with orochimaru and hidan.
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On 2017-01-06 20:05:20Show this Author Only
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  • Woaltek On 2017-01-06 19:56:45
  • nope, he doesn't do more damage than other mains. all of his damage used to come from tobi and buffed ignite. right now the best standing main is lighting main and now since they nerfed the counter of lighting main (earth ) lighting is now going to rule pvp. and guess what, the counter of fire is lighting main. and since they nerfed bomb teams for great ninja war, expect to see full teams of lighting mains with orochimaru and hidan.
Well i don't actually know the specific numbers but i know that he still does heavy group damage which Midnight Blade doesn't. When i said he did more damage than other mains, i meant overall. And in ranked battles, he normally has higher damage than other mains when you check the statistics at the end of the battle, only being beaten out by midnight blade sometimes. Plus he still has the sleep thing which has been abused in the past along with his new abilities that seem cool. You just have to try to adjust. But maybe you're right and i just don't understand because i don't have enough experience.
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On 2017-01-06 20:11:26Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 20:05:20
  • Well i don't actually know the specific numbers but i know that he still does heavy group damage which Midnight Blade doesn't. When i said he did more damage than other mains, i meant overall. And in ranked battles, he normally has higher damage than other mains when you check the statistics at the end of the battle, only being beaten out by midnight blade sometimes. Plus he still has the sleep thing which has been abused in the past along with his new abilities that seem cool. You just have to try to adjust. But maybe you're right and i just don't understand because i don't have enough experience.
ranked battle is kind of useless to test ninjas for pvp. the problem is that the buffs that they gave him do not benefit him a lot because all of the good ninjas that deal a lot of ninjutsu damage are p2w. and if you re p2w you re probably not going to want and play fire main in the first place since a p2w lighting main is better in every single way.
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On 2017-01-06 20:17:01Show this Author Only
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  • Woaltek On 2017-01-06 20:11:26
  • ranked battle is kind of useless to test ninjas for pvp. the problem is that the buffs that they gave him do not benefit him a lot because all of the good ninjas that deal a lot of ninjutsu damage are p2w. and if you re p2w you re probably not going to want and play fire main in the first place since a p2w lighting main is better in every single way.
right now probably one of the best teams for fire main as it stands is a team with kakuzu, konan and mei. or sage naruto, killer be and hashirama. and as you can see for the team to work you need p2w ninjas.
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On 2017-01-06 20:19:16Show this Author Only
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  • Woaltek On 2017-01-06 20:11:26
  • ranked battle is kind of useless to test ninjas for pvp. the problem is that the buffs that they gave him do not benefit him a lot because all of the good ninjas that deal a lot of ninjutsu damage are p2w. and if you re p2w you re probably not going to want and play fire main in the first place since a p2w lighting main is better in every single way.
I see what you're saying. but still, even if 1 or 2 classes are better than him that doesn't make him useless. And even if it does or if Midnight blades possible team configurations become too strong they'll just be nerfed the future. Thanks for your point of view.
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On 2017-01-06 20:21:46Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-01-06 20:19:16
  • I see what you're saying. but still, even if 1 or 2 classes are better than him that doesn't make him useless. And even if it does or if Midnight blades possible team configurations become too strong they'll just be nerfed the future. Thanks for your point of view.
nah m8, they are not nerfing anything, the developers of this game are doing nothing but creating new events for the western countries. the only thing they are doing is import the game from chinese severs to us.
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On 2017-01-07 08:25:28Show this Author Only
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Mizu is suppose to have Sennin Moudo
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On 2017-01-07 09:59:37Show this Author Only
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Who's Mizu and what's sennin Moudo?
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On 2017-01-07 10:01:09Show this Author Only
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I think she/he meant the Water Main with Mizu and "Sage Mode" with "Sennin Moudo" :)
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On 2017-01-07 13:25:44Show this Author Only
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About scarlet's 4th standard, says it have a fixed chance of causing ignition..

Yet, it doesn't cause ignite everytime.

Error in description? or, will it be fixed later as per the description?
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On 2017-01-07 13:56:29Show this Author Only
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  • Sourav On 2017-01-07 13:25:44
  • About scarlet's 4th standard, says it have a fixed chance of causing ignition..

    Yet, it doesn't cause ignite everytime.

    Error in description? or, will it be fixed later as per the description?
Well it says it's supposed to cause ignite in the description and in the additional status list so i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be there. so either it's glitched,or there's just a certain special condition(s) that has to be completed that gives it a chance to activate that's hard to trigger like having to hit a high combo with your team and standard attack. That's what i think the fixed chance means at least.
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On 2017-01-07 13:57:58Show this Author Only
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  • WildeJagd On 2017-01-07 10:01:09
  • I think she/he meant the Water Main with Mizu and "Sage Mode" with "Sennin Moudo" :)
Thanks for the explanation they probably don't pay the english version of the game.
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On 2017-01-07 18:07:13Show this Author Only
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Basically earth is somehow viable only when one reaches 85lvl..uh...
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On 2017-01-07 19:28:54Show this Author Only
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Is it just me, or did they miss a change to the Earth Main? Boulder Jutsu seems to have also been changed. It used to give a random member of the team (or any team on your side of the field) another standard attack/action, along with increased critical hit:

It got changed toa shield for your team:



Was I the only one that noticed this? I wouldn't have if it were not for the fact I went to do SA today, only to find no ability to grant another attack at random. Also, since it is late, did I miss it from the change log on this thread, or is it not there?


Edit: Just looked once more. I think I see what happend. It looks like they mixed it up with Steel body. #6 on the list says:

"6. Steel BodyBefore: Before the action each round, double the Critical Hit of one team member at random and provide one extra Standard attack (cannot be stacked up with the effects of other Standard attacks).Current: Immune to , , and Debuffs. Will also have his Defense increased by 100%."

So the "Before" lists the old Boulder Jutsu stats... so maybe they got mixed up with typing it out. Steel body does say the same as "Current", so maybe it was cleaned up, but atleast the skill it's self did not get changed. This post was last edited by Maroner at 2017-1-7 19:34
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On 2017-01-07 20:32:50Show this Author Only
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Nice job 2.O

Wind main: -flower gard :Before each action in a round, generates a Shield for up to 3 Female ninjas in your field based on 20% of this unit’s Resistance base attribute. It will also cancel 1 stack of the suffered.

Earth main: - Petrifying jutsu:Generates a Shield to up to 2 units from your team with the least Life, based on 20% of the unit’s Resistance base attribute.

So now we have the AoE dps main charchater that does a better job at tanking than the actual tank ? What kind of bs is that ?
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