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On 2017-01-02 12:01:51Show All Posts
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i try to explain it as simple as i can, cause when i first noticed it i also didnt quite get how initiative works and i think i still dont know everything about it.

But here is what i know:

1. the Position your Character is in.
There are 4 positions they decide what ninja acts first
2. the Mystery skill
if it is a Prompt skill it will be used before the standard attack.
if not it will be used when that ninja gets to attack.
3. The initative finaly comes into play

So lets take my team for example the team i use what is :
Guy Main Mifune
*X Kimimaro *X
*X *X *X

and i what to use guy as example on the oponents Sage Naruto When my opponent has this linup:
Main Tobi *X
Iruka Sage *X
*X *X *X

In this example i will never be able to interupt Sage Naruto cause he is on Position 2 and i am on Position 4, His Prompt will allways be cast before mine.

BUT: Lets change the Mystery we use.

For this example i use Mifune and He Uses Tobi

So both have a Prompt and both are on position 1
My Mifune has a pritty high initiative of 2217
My Opponents Tobi has initiative of 2000

in this example my Mifunes mystery will go off before Tobis mystery.

So now how do we get initiative and how can w e increase it ?
Without anything your Ninjas have 0 initiative !
The Battle armor gives us some initiative ( lvl 3 Battle armor gives 67 i think )
Then the equipment your ninja is wearing gives you some ... you can increase that via refining and purifying. ( for example something refined to lvl 8 gives you 315 initiative +X% purification )
Then you can get some more Via eight inner gates.

so to put it simple ...
If 2 Ninjas on the same position use a mystery or attack ... the one that has the highest initiative on That Ninja will Act first ... if they are on different positions, the one with the lower position will act first ( pos 1 before pos 2)

and one more thing:
When Passive barriers come into play ... the initiative on everyone gets added together and the one with the higher "team initiative" will get the barrier

I hope this helps a bit in understanding it ...if anyone knows more about it ... i would love to know :)
This post was last edited by mayuri kurotsuchi at 2017-1-4 21:24 This post was last edited by mayuri kurotsuchi at 2017-1-4 21:25
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On 2017-01-02 12:52:23Show All Posts
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  • Sourav On 2017-01-02 12:47:16
  • Good example. This is correct in normal pvp battels..

    However, when it comes to survival the way it work is:

    I'd assume only your mifune have 2217 initiave, not everyone. Lets say others have average 1500 initiave. So game will take the average value in calculation, giving you ~1680 initiave on all your ninja's, on mifune too. While opponent tobi will still have 2000 initiave and others as they normally have and this way, opponent tobi will always go faster than your mifune, in survival.

    In all other cases, mifune will be faster.
Thats interesting to know thanks
Tho it never acurred to me that someone that usually is not was faster than me in survival
the example i took was from my survival vs one of my group mates ... tho my mifune still was faster than his tobi.
Will pay closer attention next time i get someone from my group in survival to test this a bit .
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On 2017-01-02 12:53:22Show All Posts
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  • Overmain On 2017-01-02 12:44:57
  • Just 69 without equip.
    https://s24.postimg.org/l7qvv5gj9/Screenshot_6.png
    https://s27.postimg.org/epdmbqe7n/Screenshot_10.png
those 69 maybe come from your Battle armor
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On 2017-01-04 21:36:59Show All Posts
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  • Sourav On 2017-01-02 12:47:16
  • Good example. This is correct in normal pvp battels..

    However, when it comes to survival the way it work is:

    I'd assume only your mifune have 2217 initiave, not everyone. Lets say others have average 1500 initiave. So game will take the average value in calculation, giving you ~1680 initiave on all your ninja's, on mifune too. While opponent tobi will still have 2000 initiave and others as they normally have and this way, opponent tobi will always go faster than your mifune, in survival.

    In all other cases, mifune will be faster.
as far as my testing went it it should be that the initiative of both teams goes down to the average.
so for example:

one player with 3 characters on refine lvl 4 and one on 6 will be slower than someone with all on 5
( on all positions ) in survival when his position 1 should be faster in normal pvp

but sadly my testing is not very accurate ... since i had to get "rid" of 2000 initiative to make 1 oponent faster than me ...
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