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Sourav
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On 2017-01-02 02:05:07 ｜ Show All Posts
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  • Overmain On 2017-01-01 20:42:46
  • There are 3 things that take precedence about who attack first.
    1. Prompt Skill
    No matter if u are faster n have 1st movement of the enemy, if u dont have prompt skill then the enemy will attack first.
    2. Movement
    If u have prompt skill then u must have movement 1. No matter if u have prompt skill n great initiative but u are in 2nd movement, enemies who were in the 1st movement will attack first.
    3. Initiative
    If u have condition number 1 n 2, increase your speed then u will be faster of the enemy.
    But in the case of arena n trial, many ppl argue initiative will be ac*ulate from team but i doubt it.
About arena, I'm not sure if average initiative is taken into account.

But for survival, I can confirm that it takes your average initiative while your opponent's initiative remains same on each ninja.

I usually have one ninja(chase starter in order 1) quite high initiative, others mostly still at rank 4. Many times in survival opponent's order 1 ninja will out-speed mine, but when I checked their gears from ranking, none of them had refine/initiative higher than my 1st order ninja but rather rank 5/6 on most gears.
So the only way they can out-speed me is if their refine stays same while mine is taken as average.
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Sourav
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On 2017-01-02 12:47:16 ｜ Show All Posts
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  • mayuri kurotsuc On 2017-01-02 12:01:51
  • i try to explain it as simple as i can, cause when i first noticed it i also didnt quite get how initiative works and i think i still dont know everything about it.

    But here is what i know:

    1. the Position your Character is in.
    There are 4 positions they decide what ninja acts first
    2. the Mystery skill
    if it is a Prompt skill it will be used before the standard attack.
    if not it will be used when that ninja gets to attack.
    3. The initative finaly comes into play

    So lets take my team for example the team i use what is :
    Guy Main Mifune
    *X Kimimaro *X
    *X *X *X

    and i what to use guy as example on the oponents Sage Naruto When my opponent has this linup:
    Main Tobi *X
    Iruka Sage *X
    *X *X *X

    In this example i will never be able to interupt Sage Naruto cause he is on Position 2 and i am on Position 4, His Prompt will allways be cast before mine.

    BUT: Lets change the Mystery we use.

    For this example i use Mifune and He Uses Tobi

    So both have a Prompt and both are on position 1
    My Mifune has a pritty high initiative of 2217
    My Opponents Tobi has initiative of 2000

    in this example my Mifunes mystery will go off before Tobis mystery.

    So now how do we get initiative and how can w e increase it ?
    Without anything your Ninjas have 0 initiative !
    The Battle armor gives us some initiative ( lvl 3 Battle armor gives 67 i think )
    Then the equipment your ninja is wearing gives you some ... you can increase that via refining and purifying. ( for example something refined to lvl 8 gives you 315 initiative +X% purification )
    Then you can get some more Via eight inner gates.

    so to put it simple ...
    If 2 Ninjas on the same position use a mystery or attack ... the one that has the highest initiative on That Ninja will Act first ... if they are on different positions, the one with the lower position will act first ( pos 1 before pos 2)

    and one more thing:
    When Passive barriers come into play ... the initiative on everyone gets added together and the one with the higher "team initiative" will get the barrier

    I hope this helps a bit in understanding it ...if anyone knows more about it ... i would love to know :)
    This post was last edited by mayuri kurotsuchi at 2017-1-4 21:24 This post was last edited by mayuri kurotsuchi at 2017-1-4 21:25
Good example. This is correct in normal pvp battels..

However, when it comes to survival the way it work is:

I'd assume only your mifune have 2217 initiave, not everyone. Lets say others have average 1500 initiave. So game will take the average value in calculation, giving you ~1680 initiave on all your ninja's, on mifune too. While opponent tobi will still have 2000 initiave and others as they normally have and this way, opponent tobi will always go faster than your mifune, in survival.

In all other cases, mifune will be faster.
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