Fire main with Tobi has very easy time one shotting Sage Narutos, even 5k+ power. Something like Ao/Shurado/Tobi beats that build.

Well, i never used your build, but i can sort of guess why it not working, i am guessing he has more refines total and he gets field advantage so Mei is kinda wasted and you don't touch Narutos hp much, maybe with Ao for 2k~ dmg.

With Shurado instead of Mei, he does twice more dmg with his 3 chases, also his rocket will do 4k+ to that Naruto turn 1, the ignite tick will be 1.7k~ and the actual rocket would hit 2k+ for sure and if you can get away with Aoing him as well, that Naruto should enter turn 2 with 8k~ hp.

But it has Ao in it, Shurado/Tobi/Ao with Gamaken. I use this build in sage and i usually come first in my team and almost never out of top 3. You are just changing Mei for Shurado more or less. With field up Mei is stronger then Shurado over all because of damage boost and poison, but Shurado is not really a weak ninja he is better then Mei without field.

He can't if you play smart.

If you need both Shurado and Ao to damage Naruto on turn 1 for Tobi to finish him then you need to gamble. You can seal Ao asap and there is 75% chance water main will NOT heal him, because his hp will be full, so she will heal random. Then after she healed, proceed to Shurado/Ao Naruto.

Or you might find you do enough damage with only having to use Shurado on Naruto, then you don't have to gamble. Ao his Ao and seal his Main, then Shurado Naruto.

I fight vs similar builds a lot, but it's usually Tobi or Chojuro instead of Naruto here, who i would say are harder to kill cause they get shield from Ao and don't have 20% fire weakness. This post was last edited by Dym at 2016-12-24 11:13